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02-22-2010 01:50 PM #91
The first three American goals were direct results of Brodeur misplaying the puck. He should have been pulled last night. Babcock should start Luongo with Fleury as the back up for the next game. Maybe that will send Marty a wake-up call.
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02-22-2010 02:01 PM #92
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02-22-2010 02:12 PM #93
Were we watching the same game? Crosby played terrible yesterday. The game is played at both ends, and his line got exposed in the defensive on multiple occasions.
That has been the biggest problem thus far with this team. While they dominate the shot total, when the puck is in their defensive in, they are playing lazy. They're not moving their feet well, they're chasing the puck, and they're more concerned about the counter attack than actually getting the puck safely out of the zone.
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02-22-2010 03:09 PM #94
Yes I was watching the same game and no he was not that bad. Most turnovers were caused by the D and Brodeur who looked like a kid in need of Ritalin. If he played that bad why was he on the ice every two or three shifts? He probably had the top three most ice time for the forwards.
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02-22-2010 03:13 PM #95
Actually he was in #1 ice time with 17:23 minutes. If I had a player playing the way you described him he would not be leading the team with 17 minutes.
Strive for perfection, but never expect it!
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02-22-2010 03:22 PM #96
he was a -3 after the third US goal. Not a good showing. He got ice time because they need him to be successful if they are going to win, so they need to play him and give him a chance to get going.
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02-22-2010 03:32 PM #97
+/- is the most overrated stats in hockey and it should not exist. You step on the ice while the other team scores, your -1. You’re on the penalty kill unit and your team gets scored on a few time because of a tip in, your –X.
Funny cuz earlier you were defending Brodeur on brilliantly tipped goals and pointing out it was not his fault and now you are blaming Crosby on his -3 for the night. If it wasn’t for the kid, the comeback at the end would not have been possible.
Any who, this was the game they needed to lose if they had to lose one. Lets see what they are made of.Strive for perfection, but never expect it!
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02-22-2010 03:36 PM #98
I'm not blaming Crosby. There were lots of people who needed to be better in the defensive zone. He was one of them. I was taking issue with your claim that he played a great game. He didn't. He needs to do more for the team to be successful, and looked out of place defensively.
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02-22-2010 03:36 PM #99
Well, well, well, Luongo will replace Brodeur tomorrow night. I guess Badcock thought Brodeur was not up to par.
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02-22-2010 03:38 PM #100
while i agree with this, it could also be that other countries have simplified their game plans to let Canada bring it to them. everyone who plays canada knows they wont win trading scoring chances with canada. so they bunker down, play defense and look for a chance to break out. canada on the other hand has the task of carrying the play, trying to break the trap, and find creative ways to score.
maybe canada needs to play possum. let their opponents establish control of the puck in the offensive zone, and then BLAM! counterattack on them.You only get out of something what you put into it
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02-22-2010 03:38 PM #101
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02-22-2010 04:40 PM #102
Babcock was also less than stellar. After the Crosby line (with Nash and Iginla) peppered Miller for about 55 seconds at the end of the third period he then has Perry on the ice... let me see Heatley, Marleau, Thornton line with Getzlaf or Stall or.... Perry, are you kidding me.
That minute from 18:00 to 19:00 of the third period was amazing... they must have shot 10 times toward Miller... I think the guy counting the shot on net was getting tired...If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball.
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02-22-2010 05:36 PM #103
I totally agree. The SJ line would have been my choice. And he should have called a time out. The Crosby, Iginla ,Nash line were amazing on that sift. Let them get their wind back and keep them on the ice.
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02-23-2010 08:36 AM #104
brodeur is out. luongo starts vs Germany.
You only get out of something what you put into it
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02-23-2010 08:55 AM #105
I agree with you fully. On that score do you agree with Don Cherry's view that Canada should be going with three lines, not four? I do. It seems to me that in this way, the players would really get into the game. Besides, if anyone one of them got tired (which they shouldn't), then there would be plenty of fresh legs to replace them.
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02-23-2010 12:34 PM #106
Mike... I don't usually agree with Don Cherry... but I would also go with 3 lines... with spot presence with the other guys. All of these guys are use to 18 to 22 minutes per game. Now they are playing 13 to 16 minutes... no enough I think.
I know you played teams sports before and you surely remember how hard it is to get into a game with limited time on the field ... let the big guns play.If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball.
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02-23-2010 12:40 PM #107
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02-23-2010 01:18 PM #108
Three lines might work, but who do you sit? None of the lines have distinguished themselves as being truly deserving of #1 time.
I keep wondering how a team would do in this tournament that was built more like an NHL team. By that I mean, have 2 scoring lines, a checking line, and a fourth line. Stagger your talent, put third liners on your third line, 4th liners on your 4th line. I'd be really curious to see how it works in a tournament like this. I mean, you could never get away with leaving the talent at home, like Canada would have to do, but I'd be curious to see how they compete. It seems to be the approach of many of the European teams, and they're not doing too shabby.
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02-23-2010 02:14 PM #109
4 lines could also work with the NHL approach with the players they got know. 2 offensive lines like the SJ line ant Cosby, iginla and Nash. A crash and bang line and a defensive line. Play these 4 lines time on ice wise like you would in the NHL. So give your two offensive lines sufficient ice time to produce.
Strive for perfection, but never expect it!
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02-23-2010 04:36 PM #110
3 lines... easy....
Crosby – Nash – Iginla
Marleau – Thornton – Heatley
Staal – Toews – Getzlaf
Bergeron – Richards – Perry – Morrow
Perry, Morrow and Bergeron could help the penalty kill.
Richards could help with the Power Play.If you think it's hard to meet new people, try picking up the wrong golf ball.
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02-24-2010 08:14 AM #111
Good showing yesterday but the real test is tonight. Who will win?
The downside of yesterday’s game was the penalty shop from Sid. Nash should have taken that shot, not Sid. What a way to boost a player’s confidence.Strive for perfection, but never expect it!
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02-24-2010 09:45 AM #112Ambition is a poor excuse for not having enough sense to be lazy.
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02-24-2010 09:48 AM #113
crosby better watch out for mike richards. if canada is on the verge of being eliminated, richards will try to put crosby in a wheelchair.
You only get out of something what you put into it
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02-24-2010 10:14 AM #114
IMO It's not about scoring one more goal, it's about boosting a players confidence. Canada was in control of the game at that point. Crosby scoring on that P-shot would not have made a difference IMO. Letting Nash take the shot could have gave him the edge he need to produce in this tournament. Look at how he seemed relieved when he scored in the 3rd. Anyway, what's done is done and let's hope they bring it tonight.
Strive for perfection, but never expect it!
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02-24-2010 10:15 AM #115
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02-24-2010 10:36 AM #116
flyers penguins. it's the ugliest rivalry in hockey
You only get out of something what you put into it
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02-24-2010 10:52 AM #117
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02-24-2010 11:21 AM #118
because Richards can't take his cheap shot while Canada is winning, and can't do it after they lose, he has to time it perfectly, at the very last minute of the last game Canada plays. Mark my words.
You only get out of something what you put into it
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02-24-2010 11:22 AM #119
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02-24-2010 11:23 AM #120
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