Michelson playing US open ?

[Marcos]

So looks like Phil is playing the Open. I thought he was banned from PGA events? Will the other -players that have won majors still play even if they are banned?

[cleek]

So looks like Phil is playing the Open. I thought he was banned from PGA events? Will the other -players that have won majors still play even if they are banned?

likely because it is a staged USGA event. He can also play in the Open Championship since it is open to all professional golfers.

LIV kinda reminds me of the WHA in the 70's , they threw a lot of money to lure star players but in the end the league disolved after 7 seasons. I see the same happening with LIV.

[Gofish2]

likely because it is a staged USGA event. He can also play in the Open Championship since it is open to all professional golfers.

LIV kinda reminds me of the WHA in the 70's , they threw a lot of money to lure star players but in the end the league disolved after 7 seasons. I see the same happening with LIV.

If it plays out the same as the WHA then it will be a win for LIV as 4 teams ended up merging with the NHL including the Jets, Oilers and Nordiques. The difference that I see is that the Sauds have a never ending source of money as long as the oil lasts.

[cleek]

maybe not the best comparison I gave because hockey is a team sport but if the best players stay on the PGA tour , which I think for the most part will happen , then LIV is a 2nd class tour. I loved what Rory said at the Canadian Open , re: his 21 wins is 1 more than someone else.

[jeffc]

likely because it is a staged USGA event. He can also play in the Open Championship since it is open to all professional golfers.

LIV kinda reminds me of the WHA in the 70's , they threw a lot of money to lure star players but in the end the league disolved after 7 seasons. I see the same happening with LIV.

The difference is LIV doesn't have to make money.

[em69]

The difference is LIV doesn't have to make money.

At this point, it is virtually impossible to recoup their billions in funds they have tossed into LIV up to this point. I would think though that even if you are willing to piss away money without a care in the world, you would think that would only last so long. The SA must have some thoughts on that...

[jeffc]

At this point, it is virtually impossible to recoup their billions in funds they have tossed into LIV up to this point. I would think though that even if you are willing to piss away money without a care in the world, you would think that would only last so long. The SA must have some thoughts on that...

I don't think they care to recoup it. That's not what it's about. And there is $600B in the fund.

[Wilster]

I don't think they care to recoup it. That's not what it's about. And there is $600B in the fund.

Not all that will be invested into golf , isn't the pga "not for profit" ?

[jeffc]

Not all that will be invested into golf , isn't the pga "not for profit" ?

It won’t but my point is they have very deep pockets

And yes the PGA not for profit

[Donny]

I'll cheer for him and Dustin (provided they made the cut) on Saturday and Sunday. I'm sure there will be some hecklers out there but they'll get the boot from security.

[Wilster]

I'll cheer for him and Dustin (provided they made the cut) on Saturday and Sunday. I'm sure there will be some hecklers out there but they'll get the boot from security.

It's gonna make a very entertaining tournament even more watchable .I expect some serious heckling to the Liv boys , but I'd imagine TV will have it drowned out or on a delay.
Looking forward to it

[Donny]

It's gonna make a very entertaining tournament even more watchable .I expect some serious heckling to the Liv boys , but I'd imagine TV will have it drowned out or on a delay.
Looking forward to it

I'll be there watching in person! Can you imagine anything worse for the PGA than DJ winning this one???? CLASSIC!

[1800Duffers]

Imagine the conversation if Rory or JT were paired up with Phil or Dustin.

[1800Duffers]

Golf channel showed the pairings for tomorrow and JT and Rory are not golfing with Phil or Dustin.

[Gofish2]

I think what bothered me was the hypocrisy. European Tour playing in Saudi for several years with the same sponsor as LIV and little said.

[Donny]

I think what bothered me was the hypocrisy. European Tour playing in Saudi for several years with the same sponsor as LIV and little said.

The soapbox is real. Rory being the worst of them.

[Gofish2]

The soapbox is real. Rory being the worst of them.

I think a lot of the newscrafters beat Rory to the box. He made his stand several years ago and stuck by it while a few of the golf channel guys were late to the party and took umbrage about human rights abuses as if they were invented last month.

[Donny]

https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/02/golf/...ntl/index.html

[Big Johnny69]

I find it interesting where DJ still has his sponsorships with TM but looks like Callaway has dropped Lefty.

[Marcos]

I find it interesting where DJ still has his sponsorships with TM but looks like Callaway has dropped Lefty.

I do believe RBC has dropped him and thats a biggy.

[Big Johnny69]

I do believe RBC has dropped him and thats a biggy.

Maybe, but pretty sure TM/Adidas is paying more than RBC.

[Marcos]

Maybe, but pretty sure TM/Adidas is paying more than RBC.

Probably right buddy. By the way, what do you think of the colour scheme on the US Open TM bags? Looks beige to my old eyes.

[BogeyGolf]

Personally, I don't think Phil has a chance of winning anything anymore on the PGA anyways, so I see the move to LIV tour...

[BARGEGOLF]

I think the Saudis are already regretting committing $200M to a guy who shot +10 in a 54 hole exhibition birdie fest and then missed the cut in the US OPEN by a gazillion strokes. They deserve each other.

[Wilster]

It was a great tournament irregardless of the liv vs pga tour nonsense.
Quite an interesting course that one too , typical us open brutal rough & quick greens , makes for great watching imo

[jeffc]

I think the Saudis are already regretting committing $200M to a guy who shot +10 in a 54 hole exhibition birdie fest and then missed the cut in the US OPEN by a gazillion strokes. They deserve each other.

LIV player results

DJ +4
Reed +10
DeChambeau +13
Garcia MC
Gooch MC
Na MC
Phil MC

[BARGEGOLF]

Love the irony of those results.

[jvincent]

LIV player results

DJ +4
Reed +10
DeChambeau +13
Garcia MC
Gooch MC
Na MC
Phil MC

For completeness, here's what they earned at the first LIV tournament, not including signing bonuses

DJ: $625K
Gooch:$580K
Garcia: $170K
Na: $146K
Phil: $146K

Map those onto the US Open prize money and you can see why they are playing for LIV.

[BARGEGOLF]

Yeah, they can no longer compete at an elite level and have no scruples taking copious amounts of sportswashing $$$ from the Saudis. Its disgusting.

[Donny]

DJ, Reed and Bryson have no problem competing at the elite level.