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01-23-2008 09:54 AM #91
I think that acknowledging it as a non-issue was the right thing to do. If we all continue to get bent out of shope over stuff like this, we'll never get anywhere.
I think that those who want to fix things would do better to focus on actual racism.Sucking at golf is it's own reward.
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01-23-2008 09:57 AM #92
You know, he probably did do the right thing for his sanity and his golf game by accepting the apology and moving on.
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01-23-2008 01:49 PM #93
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01-23-2008 04:10 PM #94
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Why is there a surprise that some people (including Tiger) didn't think it was a big deal. It amazes me how some people just search for the tiniest thing to make into a makor issue.
I understand the historical aspect of lynching, but the context was nowhere even close to having racial undertones.
As for the noose cover...I'd say considering the ridiculous uproar over the word, the noose was a very appropriate image.
Lynch: murder for supposed crime: to seize somebody believed to have committed a crime and put him or her to death immediately and without trial, usually by hanging
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01-23-2008 07:25 PM #95
Tell me when I said it was I lie. I never said that. If that is what you got from my posts then I apologise. My postulation was that this was an opportunity for him to raise the conciousness of a country, and he chose to take the conservative route and not cause controversy. However, I have listened to and read opinions of those who are in a better position than I to be the judge of this situation - Michael Wilbon of the Washington Post for example. I have always held is opinion in high regard, and today I heard him say that he is outraged over those who would question Tiger's opinion on this matter. Some blacks say he's not black enough, and even some whites accuse him of being too corporate and buttoned up on this, and other matters - I'd lump myself into that latter bracket - but I never said he lied.
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01-23-2008 07:28 PM #96
I don't want to rehash this, but by definition, you are correct. By connotation however, you're missing a very large point.
To some, including myself, I find the term extremely distasteful. Others, such as yourself, don't apply the same emotional response to the term. To each their own. But, I reserve my right to be offended by something that may cause you no offense, and you of course have the right to be offended by something I am not.
Live and let live yes, but a modicum of decorum and educational awareness doesn't hurt either.www.chapeaunoirgolf.com
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01-23-2008 07:52 PM #97
To me, when you say that he's choosing to take the conservative root - that he's choosing not to cause a controversy - you're telling me that you aren't taking what he said at face value. You're telling me that you really don't quite believe that he's not offended, but instead that he's made a choice to not show that he is offended publically. You're telling me that you think it was a political choice, rather than his genuine feelings. You may not have called him a liar, but the implication of your words is certainly that he has been less than truthful.
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01-23-2008 08:14 PM #98
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01-24-2008 12:10 PM #99
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01-24-2008 03:27 PM #100
It would be borderline in my book. I think there are plenty of other ways to describe how to overtake the world's number one player (be it Tiger or Phil, or anyone else).
I don't necessarily think it was racially motivated no. Kelly has admitted to the mistake, has apologized and has served a two week suspension. I supported the suspension because I thought it fair. I never wanted to see he lose her job, but did point out that people have lost their jobs for similar utterances.
At this point, I think we've said all that needs to be said.www.chapeaunoirgolf.com
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01-26-2008 06:51 AM #101
For an compelling contrast to Golfweek's foolish strategy, Golfworld got it right. In their January 18th issue they published a story about Bill Spiller. The piece by Al Barkow is entitled One Man's Mission. The story is about his struggle, as a black man, for equality on the PGA Tour. It was not until forced to do so in the 1960s that their caucasian only clause was removed by the Tour. Spiller's is a moving story.
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01-26-2008 10:42 AM #102
Interesting mpare, I'll have to give that a read... Does Chapters carry Golfworld I wonder? I might swing by there this afternoon to check.
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01-26-2008 10:47 AM #103
There's no need to go out in the cold. Here's a link to the article on their site:
http://www.golfdigest.com/golfworld/...20080118barkow
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01-28-2008 02:05 PM #104
Thanks for the link!
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