Oil Can Spin Milled?

[MusicMan]

I know these wedges just recently came out and i know nothing about them...

I'm thinkin that the regular SM series chewed up balls like crazy, now combine that with the rust that will eventually form on the face of the OCs... are these gonna cost guys a ProV with every wedge shot? (ie: are these gonna take chunks out with every shot)

im only asking cuz i have no wedges right now and I am in need of a new set, and i like the look of these puppies

[big easy]

Very nice wedges. I have never tried the "regular" SM but mine (Oil Can SM) don't chew the ball any worst than any other wedges I played before. I have a pretty steep angle of attack and can't say that they are any worst. I would say it is mostly due to the type of ball you're playing. I used to play Strata for years and the ball was unplayable after 3-4 wedge shots. With my SM, I really noticed that I get more spin on short approach shots (from the fringe/around the green or less than 20 yards). The reason I went with the Oil Can is only because I prefer the look/color as I'm sure that both wedges generate pretty much the same amount of spin (i.e. a lot!!!!!). It honestly took me some time to get used to them. A friend of mine plays the RAC TP and he also gets a lot of spin. It must have to do with the milling marks on the clubface in addition to the deep grooves as both wedges (TP and SM) have pretty similar clubfaces.

[spackler]

Rust doesn't contribute anything to spin on wedges. It's for cosmetic purposes, maybe feel too with raw carbon being softer than chrome.

[MusicMan]

thanks boys

[Nat Williams]

Rust doesn't contribute anything to spin on wedges. It's for cosmetic purposes, maybe feel too with raw carbon being softer than chrome.

Yup

I have the satin finish and don't get any glare (which is the only reason I'd have for going to raw finish) the feel is quite nice, and i'd highly recommend them.

[tickyboy]

They feel fantastic.... I also bought them specifically to coke and rust them, since the oil can finish wears off eventually anyway. Really like the look of them, and they rust naturally. No plans on changing wedges anytime soon.

[Fallys0820]

What is the true benefit to rusting a wedge if it provides no spin benefit? Aesthetically, I can't see what the benefit would be either? I have a Cleveland lob wedge that I have rusted to hell, but other than it getting some laughs from my girlfriend when she asks if it's "time for ol' rusty?"

I'm in the market for some SM wedges and would like to know before I jump in. I'd also like to know if anyone knows why Titleist didn't come out with a 52deg spin milled wedge? I run Cleveland 588s in 53, 56 and 60deg wedges. I suppose I could run with a 54 and 58deg spin milled, but would leave a lot to be desired distance wise between PW (130ish yrds) and SW (100-105 yrds).

Fally

[Nat Williams]

I'd also like to know if anyone knows why Titleist didn't come out with a 52deg spin milled wedge?

I've been told that they didn't want to make anything longer than a 54 because it would spin too much for the average player. You could always buy a 54 and have it bent to 52. Or you could get a tour SM, they've been made all the way down to 47 for some players.

[Fallys0820]

What's the cost for tour spin milled, if you have any idea?

Thanks,

Fally

[Nat Williams]

Depends on the availability, BSG & golfwrx might be good starting points .... I'd expect around 250$ US for a used tour vokey from what i've seen in the past.

[MusicMan]

thanks for the info boys!

bought me a set today. OC SM 56* and 60*

[babym0use]

How much did the set Cost ? Hope not an arm and a leg knowing what SM go for .

[MusicMan]

99 each brand new in the plastic at the FGO sale in London... see golfbum's thread... i doubt they have any left though for that price. they had some used ones for $80. they have the OC finish and the Satin finish ones...

[babym0use]

That is a steal for that price . Am sure you will come to appreciate the way the club works the ball . Have the Raw SM set and would not trade them for anything . Helped lower my score in all my short game plays .

[Fallys0820]

Is there anything you can do to try and not have these rust? I like the look as is and would rather get them if there was something I could do so they didn't rust. I abused the hell out of my Cleveland to rust it and it got old quick.

These wedges are so nice that I wouldn't want them to get too rusted. Obviously clean and rub them off with a towel after every shot, but is there a specific way to clean them after a round to not promote rust?

Thanks,

Fally

[MusicMan]

I use WD40. used it on my old cally vintage forged wedges and they didnt rust that bad.

[Ginker]

They are going to rust no matter what. Best you can do is keep them dry.

[Hacker]

What if you kept them oiled up like a Scotty Circa or Oil Can?

[MusicMan]

What if you kept them oiled up like a Scotty Circa or Oil Can?

I use WD40. used it on my old cally vintage forged wedges and they didnt rust that bad.

comon hacker... at least read the thread...

[Hacker]

comon hacker... at least read the thread...

I did read the thread.......you suggested WD40 which we all know is a lubricant I suggested OIL which we all know repells water and helps to keep Scotties from rusting.....and the question was how could one keep a SM OC from RUSTING not how can one keep an SM OC from SQUEEKING

Please tell me that you didn't use WD 40 on any of your more exotic Scotties

[MusicMan]

WD40 is an oil... its just not as thick.

and yes i used WD40 on my Circa 1 and on my TeI3

[Hacker]

WD40 is an oil... its just not as thick.

and yes i used WD40 on my Circa 1 and on my TeI3

OMG!!

I think that you have to voluntarily ban yourself from The Cameron Collector site.........Rule #1 in caring for a Scotty is Don't use WD 40 on it.........well, maybe rule #2 behind Don't store it in a bucket of water

Have a read here....

"The exact formula of the magical WD-40 is a proprietary secret, so unless
some employee has loose lips we can't know exactly, but we can deduce some
components from its behavior:
1. It contains some volatile aliphatic hydrocarbons -- from the odor and
it's got to be relatively cheap in the scheme of chemical products.
Something around C8 -C12. There is probably a good fraction of branched
isomers because they tend to be lower melting which is what you want for a
"penetrating oil".

2. It has a much lower viscosity than standard "light weight" machine oil
[34.2 cps.] you get at the hardware store, so the hydrocarbons are probably
more toward the C8 range [ C8= 0.54 poise].

3. Its surface tension must be low, which is also consistent with
hydrocarbons, C8 for example has a surface tension of [ 21.80 dyne-cm, I
prefer the equivalent units ergs/cm^2]. That is a typical value for
hydrocarbons. But WD-40, in addition, may contain some tertiary alkyl amines
whose surface tension is remarkably low. Triethyl amine's surface tension at
only -4 C. is only [17.3 ergs/cm^2]. Such a component would also provide
some degree of low temperature lubrication.

4. But what is also very important is the interfacial tension between the
WD-40 and water, because this is a measure of how fast the product "chases"
water out of the nooks and crannies of a rusty screw thread. This is
achieved with surfactants.
The alcohol n-octanol has an interfacial tension of 8.5 ergs/cm^2 and
n-heptanoic acid has an interfacial tension with water of only 7.0
ergs/cm^2.

5. I would not be surprised if some metal ion chelating agents are also
in the gmisch.

Contrary to your question the density of WD-40 is less than that of water,
so there's no gravity at work."

So it is NOT oil - it's SUPER Oil

[MusicMan]

Scotty i was kidding do you really think i would use WD40 on a Scotty Cameron... lets be honest here... im not that big of an idiot

the only thing that touches Eleanor is babyoil and a super soft cloth

[Hacker]

Scotty i was kidding do you really think i would use WD40 on a Scotty Cameron... lets be honest here... im not that big of an idiot

the only thing that touches Eleanor is babyoil and a super soft cloth

I didn't think so but DAMN ya had me thinking................

Eleanor?!?

Surely there is a good story behind that one

[Big Johnny69]

Eleanor?!?

Surely there is a good story behind that one

I hope not.

[MusicMan]

well i was gonna name is Jessica after Lance's sister, but i thought that would come off bad. So Eleanor it is

[MusicMan]

So, I was at the range today and I have never had anything like this happen with a wedge... the picture speaks for itself... this is after hitting 12 shots with it. and i think there is a peice of each ball in the grooves

I am NOT looking forward to using ProVs this year if this is whats gonna happen after every shot

[Nat Williams]

i see you wiped all the ball marks off the hosel before taking a pic ... that'll help inspire some false confidence in your ryder partner

[Big Johnny69]

i see you wiped all the ball marks off the hosel before taking a pic ... that'll inspire some confidence in your ryder partner

LOL!!!!!!!! That's gold Jerry, gold!!!!

[MusicMan]

i didnt shank a single ball today! ask Depe! i sware! the shanks are only in indoor golf man...