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    Flagstick in or out


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    I am 100% on team 'in'. A lot quicker too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spackler View Post
    I am 100% on team 'in'. A lot quicker too.
    Not necessarily. If you are playing by yourself it is. But if half the group want it in and the other half out, it will be slower
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    Sure...if you are ramming putts excessively hard like on the video. I don't think this video reflects reality, therefore the results are skewed. The new rule was implemented to speed up play...not to make putting easier. This rule will slow down play.

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    I've been leaving it in most of the time and prefer that but if someone has taken it out I'll just leave it out. This morning with it in I made a few that didn't get deflected and so far in 2019 I haven't had it hurt me with it in. For tap ins it's a no brainer to leave it in and will speed the play up.

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    Dave Pelz did testing in 1990 and determined that your odds are better with the flagstick in.
    https://www.golf.com/Instruction/201...le-change-2018

    Would not be surprised if they reverse course on this rule since it seems to be provably advantageous to have the flagstick in. Although it is hard to imagine that they didn't know this in advance.
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    In all the way. Amateurs tend to be 80% short of their putts so it's doesn't mater really but in the cases they really have too much weight and hit the flagstick, it doesn't matter where it bounces , it will help stopping the ball so it's a bonus .

    The unpredictability is what the pros worry about and the PGA admitted that they have not thought or looked into this (deflection depending on the stick's material).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gobble_It View Post
    The unpredictability is what the pros worry about and the PGA admitted that they have not thought or looked into this (deflection depending on the stick's material).
    It was stated this past weekend that all PGA Tour events use the exact same type of flagstick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by em69 View Post
    It was stated this past weekend that all PGA Tour events use the exact same flagstick.
    Do they really move it from course to course?
    And hole to hole? It must waste a lot of time.

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