Our St. Patrick's Night 'Fun'

This is how Bugsy and Indio spent St Patty's night and Bugsy spent overnight, sitting at the hospital waiting for our son to be stitched up :biting:

http://www.ottawasun.com/News/Ottawa...8/8792821.html

Fortunately he put his arm in front of his face or it would have been much worse as the knife actually went completely through the arm :eek: they had to stitch up both sides to close it and as of today, still has no feeling in his fingers... The kids were let back out on the street that night because they were minors but one of them was re-arrested the next day and has apparently been placed in the detention centre for 6 months, because he was already on probation (or so we were told).

There were actually 2 others with my son who were 'attacked' as well. The girl that was with my son was punched in the face and the other guy wiyth him received several small cuts on his hands and face from defending himself.

Jesus, thank god it wasn't worse. Little scary what kids get up to these days.

As already discussed, this is terrible and a sad, sad commentary on what our society has become :rolleyes :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by John

Jesus, thank god it wasn't worse. Little scary what kids get up to these days.

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The detectives said something like 'welcome to our sad world'...

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Originally Posted by Hacker

As already discussed, this is terrible and a sad, sad commentary on what our society has become :rolleyes :rolleyes

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I fully understand the reason for the 'Young Offender's Act' but letting them back out on the street before the 'victim' has even gotten home from the hospital is a bit frustrating. And saying that one of them has a 'clean record' so he was let go immediately drove me nuts! It isn't 'clean' anymore but it will take another episode like this to get something done... He had 2 steak knives on him so he was definitely out looking for a fight.

OK, I will get off my soap box now :meditate:

Soapbox away on this issue.......:thumbsup :thumbsup

No one uses fists anymore like they use to. Its gotten bad that all these "kids" have guns and knives now a days.

Glad to hear he is "ok" relatively speaking. Hope you are as well.

Yikes.. wouldn't you just love to grab these kids and smash their heads together!!

If they can't do anything to them they should send them to a boot camp for the summer holidays. Seriously this is crazy!!

Thanks God the kids are ok. I hope your son's feeling returns to his hand. Obviosly major nerve damage there. Can he not sue the parents?

Good greif. I agree with you Indio, that's treating it too lightly for a violent crime, even for a minor.

That's awful Bob, I hope he heals very quickly. When I was in high school in Toronto, it was at the time that youth gangs started growing more prevalent and getting more aggressive. Swarmings, that kind of thing. I remember standing in line for some concert tickets one time, having some kid bud in front of us, and when we started *****ing at him he basically showed us a gun. It's sad what 'kids' have to deal with these days.

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Originally Posted by Weazl

No one uses fists anymore like they use to. Its gotten bad that all these "kids" have guns and knives now a days.

Glad to hear he is "ok" relatively speaking. Hope you are as well.

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Fortunately there were no guns involved.... yes, all the family is doing well... he is parading around with his sling and war wounds and has become a ICON' amongst his friends..... :fight:

The somewhat amusing part of the story is that when the kids pulled the knives, he backed off and started to run (who the hell wouldn't) and the kid yelled that he was a ***** (small kitty kat), so he stopped running.... a 6 foot 3 inch kid does not like to be called a ***** :-)

but the sad thing is, the kid that stabbed him is a brother of someone my son went to school with ... :rolleyes

It is sad as we know who the small kitty cat is, the one with the knife who thought he was so tough! Punks!

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Originally Posted by Weazl

It is sad as we know who the small kitty cat is, the one with the knife who thought he was so tough! Punks!

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And a freaking steak knife to boot :rolleyes :rolleyes

His mother was probably more upset about losing a steak knife than that actions of her "Baby"

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Originally Posted by Hacker

And a freaking steak knife to boot :rolleyes :rolleyes

His mother was probably more upset about losing a steak knife than that actions of her "Baby"

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she lost 3 steak knives and one of them is now broken in half (must have been one helluva swing with it!):eek:

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Originally Posted by Indio

she lost 3 steak knives and one of them is now broken in half (must have been one helluva swing with it!):eek:

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3 Steak knives :eek: :eek:

Me thinks that someone will be grounded for a good long time

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Originally Posted by Hacker

3 Steak knives :eek: :eek:

Me thinks that someone will be grounded for a good long time

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I don't think you can successfully 'ground' a 17 year old :rolleyes

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Originally Posted by The Saint

Yikes.. wouldn't you just love to grab these kids and smash their heads together!!

If they can't do anything to them they should send them to a boot camp for the summer holidays. Seriously this is crazy!!

Thanks God the kids are ok. I hope your son's feeling returns to his hand. Obviosly major nerve damage there. Can he not sue the parents?

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Chris, if I were to even look at those kids the wrong way I would be charged with abuse of a minor......

Even if he could, I wouldn't let him... I am not the type to blame the parents, we parents have a lot less control over the kids than we think....

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Originally Posted by spackler

That's awful Bob, I hope he heals very quickly. When I was in high school in Toronto, it was at the time that youth gangs started growing more prevalent and getting more aggressive. Swarmings, that kind of thing. I remember standing in line for some concert tickets one time, having some kid bud in front of us, and when we started *****ing at him he basically showed us a gun. It's sad what 'kids' have to deal with these days.

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The detectives gave us the entire story and all of this started so innocently in the food court an hour earlier. Apparenty my son looked over at the kids at the table beside them and nodded (cause he though he knew them)... some words were exchanged (cause the guy didn't like being looked at) and an offer to fight... which the girl with my son said no way... and it was dropped until they were unknowingly followed by the 2 kids to the bus terminal outside.... That just blows me away.....

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Originally Posted by Kilroy

Good greif. I agree with you Indio, that's treating it too lightly for a violent crime, even for a minor.

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Well, 6 months in the crow bar motel is better than what the kid originally got. We are still waiting to hear back from the detectives to see what happens to the kid with the 'clean record' :irked:

OMG Wow! Sorry Indio, that is an awful thing to happen. Not only for the initial attack, but the lingering feeling of powerlessness and insecurity that this sort of thing causes. I am particularly nervous of road rage after some incidents when I was but a teen.

I hope your son gets well very soon.

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Originally Posted by Indio

I am not the type to blame the parents, we parents have a lot less control over the kids than we think....

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Forgot.... you were a kid once:shhh:.. ... the door is open:P

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Originally Posted by The Saint

Forgot.... you were a kid once:shhh:.. ... the door is open:P

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I still am :P :-)

I hope there is no long term injury and everything heals fine! well wishes to your son Indio!

a few of us got jumped a couple years ago after a soccer game by a bunch of minors in the west end. Kid pulled a knife out at my buddy who then proceeded to protect himself, only to be charged with assault on a minor. It was 7 on 4 and because they were all 16-17 years old they walked away scot free. well minus the night in hospital for 1 of them.

Breaking a window is one thing....stabbing someone is another. They cant be treated the same way!

Well, the good news so far is BOTH of them face Assault With A Weapon :thumbsup


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(Ottawa) – The Ottawa Police officers attended Place D’Orleans Shopping Mall in regards to a report of a fight. Upon arrival, officers were made aware that a male had been stabbed in the forearm. Paramedics were contacted and attended to the victim’s injuries. The injuries are not considered to be life threatening. The victim was later transported to the hospital for treatment. Two suspects have been arrested and officers from East District Investigations are investigating the incident. The names of the victim and the suspects are not being released at this time.Any further information will be provided by investigating officers.- 30 -</PRE></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></P>

Sorry to hear about that Bob. But glad his arm is the only thing injured, and here's to hoping for a full recovery!!!

This is disgusting...I'm happy that your son is okay Bob and hope that he has a full recovery.

Back in the day, and in gangland lore, you had a select few "untouchables". Now everyone is untouchable. This is just ridiculous to hear. I'll stop talking now before I incriminate myself haha.

Best wishes to your son Bob.

Fally
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Thanks Scott.... believe me, I have had to bite my tongue on more than one occasion these past few days..... its a good thing that the detectives were really great soft spoken guys who weren't impressed with the justice system for young offenders either..... or I might have lost it...... :-)

Found out that the little suckers live about a block away from us..... :biting::biting: