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05-06-2007 07:20 PM #61
Thanks Boss. Let me know. I'm not sure exactly what I'm in the market for really. I thought this Redwood Anser would be amazing by the looks of it. The biggest issue I have with it is lack of weight in the head. I'll probably try something out with some more weight and see how it goes.
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05-07-2007 07:42 AM #62
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I can't believe this thread got to 3 pages....
Figuring I'm one of the most prominent buyer and sellers in the classifieds I figure I'll offer my insights.
First off offers:
If someone lowballs me on a piece of equipment I just don't reply to them. Simple as that, they'll get the message.
And unfortunately, lowballing will always happens and there's nothing you can do about it. Like some said, people might be on a budget and they really want something. They see there has been no offers made in the thread and they think perhaps the person really wants to get rid of their item so they'll throw in a low bid hoping to get. Not because they are being rude, just because that's all they can afford.
Secondly, pricing:
I don't use ebay or the PGA value guide. Ebay is generally set up for people looking to make a quick buck and hope their auction will go way up in bidding. And unless its fairly new stuff the PGA value guide is on the low side. PGA value guide is set up for retailers that take clubs on trade in.
When I set my prices I will check all the sites I frequent and compare price to condition there and set my asking price accordingly. Simple as that. Check what the market going rate is, not what a place like ebay or PGA value guide says.
So if anyone was interested, that's how I work."A life lived in fear of the new and the untried is not a life lived to its fullest." M.Pare 10/09/08
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05-07-2007 10:31 AM #63
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05-07-2007 11:11 AM #64
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05-07-2007 11:33 AM #65PGA value guide is set up for retailers that take clubs on trade in.
Here is the link for what Golf Town and almost if not all retailers use for accepting trades.
http://partner.globalgolf.com/PriceBook/default.aspx
Now compare that to the PGA Guide for the resale section and you'll notice quite a big difference.
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05-07-2007 11:45 AM #66
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I still beg to differ. On the PGA Value Guide for resale they have my irons of choice (Bstone J33 Combos) for just over $300 US. I have yet to see them go for any lower than $350 USD on any site I've visited. And GT had a used set (but in like new shape) for $500. Now last time I checked, even with the exchange rate, $300 US doesn't translate into $500 CDN. Our resident former Saint just sold a set of J33 heads only for $380 (at least what his asking price was).
But you are comfortable using the Guide, I prefer to frequent other sites and base my price on what the going asking rate is. To each their own. There really is no right or wrong answer. Most people know what they paid for an item and have an idea of what they'd like to get back for it (if they can't get back what they originally paid for it)."A life lived in fear of the new and the untried is not a life lived to its fullest." M.Pare 10/09/08
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05-07-2007 11:58 AM #67
GT had a used set for $500 because they're in the business to make money. You'll always pay more at a retail store for used equipment over buying privately. Used cars are more expensive from a dealer because they want to make money, but you could probably find the same car for a better price from John Smith because he's not in the business to make a profit in most cases.
That link I provided you is the exact price guide GT uses for their trade-ins. That PGA site is set up to establish some sort of benchmark on what the value of clubs are based on, as dleber noted, the average going rate through eBay. We've also established you can pay more, or pay a lot less then what a club is worth on eBay, so if you average that out, you're probably going to get a pretty fair asking price.
I don't think I ever said use the PGA Guide as a price set in stone or to abide by it as law. What I said was it's a great tool to use as a benchmark for people selling/buying. Dan and yourself have both said you feel the prices are low. If that's your opinion, then you know if someone offers you well below what is listed on that site, you're getting a lowball offer.
To tell you the truth, I'm pretty sure we had a discussion about that PGA site some time ago on here. I believe that's where I first heard of it. A few of the members on here stated that's what they use when they are trying to set a price for something used. I'm sure I'm not the only one using it.
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05-07-2007 12:11 PM #68
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No doubt, you're probably not. And I agree with you, its a benchmark, but its based on Ebay which I find is even a lower priced starting point in general. I believe ebay is where you go to find good deals, and I've seen lots on there.
But the topic was actually about low balling, and if anyone looks at the value guide or ebay, that is where they might get their low ball offer ideas from....
Just a thought."A life lived in fear of the new and the untried is not a life lived to its fullest." M.Pare 10/09/08
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05-07-2007 12:41 PM #69
I'd be willing to put my $0.02 in here for the low low asking price of $4.00 (or best reasonable offer!)
No Trades Please.Let's put a Smile on that Face!
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05-08-2007 01:38 AM #70
Now now maybe you should go back and read my post cause I did say very clearly that lessons would help my game more then equipment, but equipment does help aswell. My schedule just is to difficult to plan far enough ahead to book lessons. Maybe during my winter vacantion, I will get some lessons.
I pay for missed doctors appointments more often then I get to see him!
And yes euqipment has improved my score, not my swing but my score and I prefer to aim for as low a score as possible. As you have hit a 69 today and mention the distance your getting from your cobra!
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05-08-2007 07:58 AM #71
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05-08-2007 08:59 AM #72
I'm at a level that it if I change my driver, I can notice subtle things. The Cobra did not make me a better golfer yesterday. I was hitting them down the pipe with my SuperQuad too, I was just reviewing the club. What made me better is working with the CPGA guy I see. My driving is on this year.
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05-08-2007 11:33 AM #73
I aggree 100% that your lessons have made the biggest diffrence. Probably 90% of the diffrence in your game. But as a true example, when I purchased my SZ-440 I gained 30 yards from my clone driver. Made me more confident and my score went from 120's to 100's just cause I felt confident. This year with my MX-17's and v-steels I'm on the green in regulation more often. Last round I hit GIR on 8 holes. A first for me. I also had 6 pars that is also a first for me. Yet I did play some absolutely terrible holes. No consistancy and that is cause of my swing for sure. Yes it was very windy so that had a little factor and my putter was out to lunch which has been the strongest part of my game since I started playing. My putter is a 30$ clone I must add LOL.
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05-08-2007 05:07 PM #74
A reasonable offer is subjective.
I don't think anyone on this site is trying to screw anyone on a sale or purchase.
I didn't know there are resources for determining an approximate value. Will I use it now?? Absolutely not...I can't be bothered...
My offers are based on my own reasons and I consider them reasonable. If someone doesn't like it, then they refuse my offer and life goes on. I'm not offended.
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05-08-2007 05:12 PM #75
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05-08-2007 06:04 PM #76
I'm with you on this one em69.... If I see a club 4sale on the forum, I am sure as hell not going to go to PGA and other sites to figure out if I am getting a good deal or not.... I'm not a fanatic.... you can pretty much tell the going price for clubs just by looking in the threads in the ad section here! I have had a few clubs and odds and ends posted with what I was asking, got low ball offers but didn't bother me, I just said nope, or if I really wanted to turf the stuff, I accepted the offers.
I don't think the low ball offers were trying to screw me, they were just trying to get a deal and I don,t have a problem with them trying.... to each his/her ownProud member of the 2009 OG/TGN Ryder Cup Champions
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05-08-2007 06:21 PM #77
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05-08-2007 06:26 PM #78
I view a low-ball offer as a way to start a negotiation - and a smart way as long as it isn't so low as to be insulting. As a buyer I don't want to show all my cards at the beginning of any potential deal.
For example, let's say the Geoff has club for sale for $100 I'm willing to pay $90 or $95 for it, so I might open with an offer of $80 or $85 hoping that he will come back at a number closer to what I'm willing to pay. If he doesn't and he is firm in his original asking price than at least I know that he is firm. No harm no foul.
I try not to offer stupid crazy lowball offers but I'll definitively take 10-15% off of an asking price - unless of course it is stated that the price isn't negotiable.
My 2 cents which has a Buy It Now Price of $0.02 plus 19.99 USD for shipping
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05-08-2007 06:28 PM #79My 2 cents which has a Buy It Now Price of $0.02 plus 19.99 USD for shippingLife dinnae come wit gimmies so yuv got nae chance o' gitt'n any from me.
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05-08-2007 06:33 PM #80
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05-09-2007 02:21 AM #81
Edmonton I would love to play a round with you. Also hope you would give me some pointers. To conclude on this issue, I feel that it takes all sorts to make a world. We live in a modern world were it's no longer the strongest that survive but more often the wisest! God gave me the talents to be one hell of a fighter, yet if I was really wise would I bee working 70 hours a week in a bar???? LOL
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05-09-2007 06:04 PM #82
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05-09-2007 07:14 PM #83
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05-09-2007 07:39 PM #84
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05-09-2007 08:00 PM #85
Back on topic please.
Life dinnae come wit gimmies so yuv got nae chance o' gitt'n any from me.
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05-09-2007 08:31 PM #86
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05-09-2007 08:41 PM #87
Threads should stay on topic. There is no "ownership".
Life dinnae come wit gimmies so yuv got nae chance o' gitt'n any from me.
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05-09-2007 08:51 PM #88
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05-09-2007 08:55 PM #89
Thanks.
Life dinnae come wit gimmies so yuv got nae chance o' gitt'n any from me.
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