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09-25-2006 12:48 PM #91
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Originally Posted by Started2k3"A life lived in fear of the new and the untried is not a life lived to its fullest." M.Pare 10/09/08
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09-25-2006 12:51 PM #92
I know i'm a bit late but YEEEEAAAAAAHHHHH!!!! EUROPE WON!!!!
I had to go away for the weekend so I taped the whole lot and watched it last night (all night). What a great victory for my fellow Europeans. Lump in the throat at the end there with the reception Darren Clarke got.
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09-25-2006 01:09 PM #93Originally Posted by Started2k3
Let's say that you and I are opponents in an 18 hole match. You hit your approach shot to the 1st hole and you come up short. So, you chip on and leave yourself 3 feet below the hole. I tell you to pick it up. You're probably thinking, "nice guy" for doing that. I'm thinking that you'll most likely make it anyway. Move ahead to the back 9, maybe we're even after 14 or 15 holes. I've been "mister nice guy" all day, giving you 3 & 4 footers, maybe the occasional 5-6 footer.
Now were on the 16th hole and you've left yourself with a slippery downhill left to right 4-footer to halve the hole. You've probably got it in the back of your mind that I'll give it to you because I've been doing it all day. Nah. I think I'll make you put this one. You've now played 3/4 of a round without having to putt anything within 5 feet, and now you have to drain one of the toughest putts in golf to stay even. Maybe you'll make it. Good on ya. But I'm betting you won't. Now let's say that you miss, and you're down 1. No problem, right? Except for the fact that you only have 2 holes left to try and erase that deficit.
If you want to win this match outright, you have to win the last 2 holes. All I have to do is halve the 17th and we're done. Pressure's now on you. Now, maybe the 17th is a par-3 over water with the pin tucked right behind a deep bunker. 99 times out of 100 you wouldn't even think of going at the pin in that situation, but now you pretty much have to. I'm aiming at the centre of the green, and making 2 putts for par...
Anyway, that's what I'm talking about. Match play is a mental exercise. A good match player will use every legal tactic he can in order to beat his opponent. That doesn't happen in stroke play. You don't have 72 holes to make up ground if you're behind. You have 18, or less.When applying the Rules, you follow them line by line. You don't read between them.
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09-25-2006 01:23 PM #94Originally Posted by Started2k3
If there is a risky tee shot approach to the green and you are hitting first, you have two options, hit the safe shot, aka easy par, or hit the aggressive shot, aka potential birdie if successful or scramble for par if not.
Now if you are hitting second, you may need/want to adjust your game plan if your opponent has either dunked it in the water or hit it to 4 feet.
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09-25-2006 01:42 PM #95
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Originally Posted by LobWedge
Maybe next year I will try match play, and I hope I am proven wrong.
By the way, the smart move on the par3 three that you described is to get on the same line but inside of you. That way you show me the way to the hole. This would give me the best opportunity to birdie the hole. But then again with my 23 handicap I would only need par the hole to win it.Back at it.
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09-25-2006 01:43 PM #96
Having never played match-play, I am probably not qualified to comment, but I will anyway.
I see the difference being that in match play, it is not OK to come in second.
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09-25-2006 01:48 PM #97
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Originally Posted by Started2k3
Best match I was ever a part of was last year at my club. I was in the semi-finals against a player to which I had to give two strokes. I went into the match thinking if I shoot 75 I win going away. I shot a 73 and lost 2&1. He tied his best round of the year, a 72. We made 7 or 8 birdies between the two of us. Most enjoyable round of golf I've ever played."A life lived in fear of the new and the untried is not a life lived to its fullest." M.Pare 10/09/08
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09-25-2006 01:49 PM #98
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Originally Posted by jvincent
If you hit second and your opponent has dunked it in the water, then I don't think your game plan would ever be to follow suit. If the opponent hit it to 4ft, then unless you get it into the 1 putt range you have pretty much lost the hole anyway.Back at it.
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09-25-2006 01:50 PM #99Originally Posted by Hank HillWhen applying the Rules, you follow them line by line. You don't read between them.
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09-25-2006 02:09 PM #100
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Originally Posted by Geoff Johnston
Competitive Juices Flowing? This is exactly my point. Why would you want your adrenaline up when you are trying to putt? "Fight or flight" responses are not good when you are trying to calmly putt. If you remain calm and somewhat mentally detached from the fabricated pressure, then you will do a lot better.
Geoff if you ever get back out on the course (I hope you do) add this to your pre-shot routine or while you play. "Breath in and out a few times slowly and deeply while looking around at the world around you (trees, grass, water, clouds), and clear your mind by not focusing on anything in particular but observing everything."Back at it.
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09-25-2006 02:14 PM #101
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Originally Posted by Started2k3
As for the pre-shot routine, been there done that. I've never really had a pre-shot routine and (a long time ago ) was successful on the golf course. I kind of went with what felt good that day; one practice swing, no practice swing, a couple of waggles etc. Whatever seemed right for the day. Only routine I keep is my putting routine. Read the putt, line up my ball, two practice strokes, look at the hole, get in address position, one more look at the hole, make the putt."A life lived in fear of the new and the untried is not a life lived to its fullest." M.Pare 10/09/08
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09-25-2006 02:30 PM #102Originally Posted by Started2k3
I play would is graciously described as "aggressive" golf. I will fire at any and every pin. If I'm "on" with my ball striking, it's a long day for my opponent in match play because I'm going to have a lot of chances at birdie and just hitting the green isn't going to be enough for him.
However, if my oppenent has dunked his approach I will occaisionally hit the layup on the par 5.
The situation where your opponent is 4 feet from the pin is not usually the one to worry about. It's when he keeps hitting the middle of every green that it starts to get troubling.
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09-26-2006 03:00 PM #103
I liked this article...
http://www.thegolfchannel.com/core.a...0&select=20817
It includes this gem ...
Phil Mickelson has gone back on vacation, if he ever left.
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09-26-2006 03:48 PM #104
Just another Associated Press hack who's not even good enough (or hasn't got the balls) to put his/her name on the story. If the Americans were dominating the Ryder Cup, this same dufus would be saying that it's "the greatest thing since sliced bread". Match play has been around a hell of a lot longer than stroke play. It's easy for a tour player to hide a bogey amongst a bunch of birdies, over 72 holes. There's more room for error. Mistakes in match play are much harder to cover up.
Stroke play was invented for spectators and TV, plain and simple. I'm not saying that stroke play is bad. As a fan I like to watch the game unfold over four rounds, but it bothers me when the media gets this "I didn't like this game anyway. I wasn't really trying. Stupid game. Whatever." attitude whenever they get beaten at something. It unfairly detracts from the other team's victory.When applying the Rules, you follow them line by line. You don't read between them.
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09-26-2006 03:51 PM #105
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Originally Posted by LobWedge"A life lived in fear of the new and the untried is not a life lived to its fullest." M.Pare 10/09/08
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09-27-2006 08:37 AM #106
I don’t agree. You can make a 10 on a hole in match play and you are only down one hole. Make a 10 during an OVGA stroke play tournament, you’re dead unless you can make 6 or 7 straight birdies.
The fun thing about match play is that when you screw-up on one hole, you can concede that hole, pick up the ball and not finish the hole. This sits alot better in your mind when you move on to the next tee then having to finish a brutal and embarrassing hole in stroke play.
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