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    What to do about the tree?

    My ball ended up up against a tree. The tree is about two feet on the left side of a cart path and I am right handed.
    It is a big tree.
    This is not hazard.
    My best shot to advance the ball is to hit it left handed. This puts my feet on the cart path.
    What is my nearest point of relief?
    If I try to move directly off the cart path to take a drop I can't because of the tree.
    Where do I go?
    Is it just to bad about the tree?
    Can I drop it behind the tree?
    Can I drop it on the other side the cart path.
    Am I entitled to a stance at all?
    My best guess is I should just hit it off the cart path or take an unplayable lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger12 View Post
    My ball ended up up against a tree. The tree is about two feet on the left side of a cart path and I am right handed.
    It is a big tree.
    This is not hazard.
    My best shot to advance the ball is to hit it left handed. This puts my feet on the cart path.
    What is my nearest point of relief?
    Probably to the left

    If I try to move directly off the cart path to take a drop I can't because of the tree.
    Where do I go?
    Is it just to bad about the tree?
    Have you taken account of the one clublength from the npr?

    Can I drop it behind the tree?
    Yes
    Can I drop it on the other side the cart path.
    No, if the npr is not there
    Am I entitled to a stance at all?
    Yes but you are not entitled to a clear shot from the tree
    My best guess is I should just hit it off the cart path or take an unplayable lie.
    How would the ball get on the cart path if you had taken relief from the cart path with your LH stance?

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    How would the ball get on the cart path if you had taken relief from the cart path with your LH stance?
    Not sure what you mean here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigger12 View Post
    How would the ball get on the cart path if you had taken relief from the cart path with your LH stance?
    Not sure what you mean here.
    You said
    "My ball ended up up against a tree. The tree is about two feet on the left side of a cart path"
    then said
    "My best guess is I should just hit it off the cart path or take an unplayable lie."
    How did it get on the cart path?

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    Sorry just a typo.
    I meant just hit it where it was by the tree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA View Post
    Probably to the left


    Have you taken account of the one clublength from the npr?


    Yes

    No, if the npr is not there

    Yes but you are not entitled to a clear shot from the tree

    How would the ball get on the cart path if you had taken relief from the cart path with your LH stance?
    The player is not entitled to a stance after taking relief from an immovable obstruction (other than his stance cannot be interfered with by the immovable obstruction).

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    Where did I say he is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA View Post
    Where did I say he is?
    Original poster: Am I entitled to a stance at all?
    Your response: Yes but you are not entitled to a clear shot from the tree

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    I can't see any contradiction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA View Post
    I can't see any contradiction.
    The player is not entitled to a stance when taking relief from the immovable obstruction. See Decisions 24-2b/3 and 24-3b/2.7 for confirmation.

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    He is entitled to a stance of some sort, providing he has full relief. It may not be nice or even achievable but he is always allowed to take a stance somewhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA View Post
    He is entitled to a stance of some sort, providing he has full relief. It may not be nice or even achievable but he is always allowed to take a stance somewhere.
    The Rules do not entitle the player to a stance, and, imo, that is the question asked by the original poster, to which you answered "yes", the player is entitled to a stance. That is incorrect, imo.

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    The rules do not prohibit a player from taking a stance of some sort but it may not be where he would like it to be.

    However, I am being rather pedantic.
    Last edited by AAA; 10-04-2015 at 04:31 AM.

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