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05-30-2005 05:30 PM #31Certainly none of the public courses over the last 30 years or so.
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05-30-2005 05:34 PM #32
I wouldn't be surprised if this rule gets changed eventually.
After all, don't forget that at one point the stymie was legal too.
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05-30-2005 05:41 PM #33
All I am saying is if you have 2 guys with the same handicap playing in an OVGA or amateur tournament, and one has a lazer rangefinder because he has more money and can afford to buy this, he DOES and WILL have an advantage. To me this is now not a level playing field. And not the way it should be.
IMO figuring out the yardage IS part of the game. It's like judging wind and elevation and the more you play the better you get at it. .I've spent most of my life golfing .... the rest I've just wasted"
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05-30-2005 06:10 PM #34
And if you have an R7 and ping irons you have an advantage over the guy who plays Nortwesterns and can't afford good clubs.
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05-30-2005 07:03 PM #35
He has 14 clubs and so do I.
In tournament play the rangefinder is the 15th clubI've spent most of my life golfing .... the rest I've just wasted"
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05-30-2005 09:36 PM #36
I don't own a rangefinder, although I've been considering one.
As long as the person who has one uses it properly and doesn't slow anyone down I'm all for it. They could walk around looking for every yardage marker and then walking and counting the steps back to their ball and agonizing over the distance like some people I play with... but I'd prefer they just aimed a scope at the flag that said '157'. Then they can step right up and shank their 6-iron 70 yards to the right just like they always do.
I always try to remember that golf is fun. If it makes the game more fun for someone if they use a rangefinder, then I'm all for it.
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05-30-2005 09:53 PM #37Originally Posted by Steve Karam
Denny
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05-30-2005 10:12 PM #38
So should professional caddies be outlawed? Duh
There are guys coming up the ranks that have their wifes/husbands/friends and family on the bag because they can not afford a professional caddie. And?
How do you think most pro caddies get the yardages now? They use a laser on the practise rounds and when they do there walk off. Thanks for making my point!
I would agree with you %100 about judging wind, elevation, yardage and where to land the ball as being a great skill that all should have. The fact is most tour pros look at their caddie (who has already walked the course and noted what he needs to know)
I don't see to many stupid stakes in the middle of the fairways on TV (they will be back in the ground come monday morning)
and I am sure the pros don't look at that stupid map at the tee box that says 153, why should they - the caddies has that info already
Then lets really change the game and make everyone figure out their own yardage and see how well everyone, pros included do. if only
DennyI've spent most of my life golfing .... the rest I've just wasted"
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05-30-2005 11:32 PM #39Originally Posted by Steve Karam
All I am saying if a caddie can tell you what is the accurate distance why not a GPS. It’s only information.Strive for perfection, but never expect it!
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05-31-2005 01:24 AM #40
So for all those against EMDs, what do you do when you play a course like the Marshes? Tape your score card over the GPS display?
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05-31-2005 05:44 AM #41In tournament play the rangefinder is the 15th club
I guess my rainsuit is my 16th club, my hat is my 17th, my sunglasses are my 18th club. Anything else I have in my bag that you don't is an unfair advantage too.
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05-31-2005 06:17 AM #42
You and I are in 100% agreement on that subject Dan!
I have to say this as well: Obviously some people are a little more serious about the Tour than I expected. Not that there's anything wrong with that...
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05-31-2005 06:38 AM #43Originally Posted by CDELA
GarthM
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05-31-2005 06:54 AM #44
Reid , why do dance around the issue, "Steve" is more serious than others about the tour. Yes I care about it,
I've spent most of my life golfing .... the rest I've just wasted"
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05-31-2005 06:57 AM #45Originally Posted by Dan KilbankI've spent most of my life golfing .... the rest I've just wasted"
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05-31-2005 07:29 AM #46Originally Posted by Steve Karam
Denny
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05-31-2005 07:38 AM #47Now you get it.
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05-31-2005 07:42 AM #48Wouldn't you rather win because of your skill not because your opponent drop his shot in the pond because he did not have the right yardage from the course.I've spent most of my life golfing .... the rest I've just wasted"
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05-31-2005 07:52 AM #49
Not when the course is not marked properly, then it comes down to who guessed best. Also, that is a great skill to have but unless you want to be a caddie you shouldn't have to worry if the 200 yrd marker is really 200 yrds.
Denny
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05-31-2005 08:02 AM #50But isnt that a skill too, knowing the yardages?
Loosing the caddy was a step backwards in providing information to the golfer. Why should we be stuck with it?
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05-31-2005 08:23 AM #51
Range finder
I guess I'll jump on the band wagon too. I believe that laser range finder should be used during fun play and tournament. Why not? I have played courses that had markers at 150 and 100 yds and I am pretty accurate with my irons and would take the club that I know I hit for 150 yds to find myself short or too long, and then I played with a friend who had a range finder and found that there was sometimes up to 20 yds difference from what the courses marked as the 150 yds marker. If Tiger and all the PGA dudes can have the help of their caddies with distance why should I be penalized for not having one to tell me the exact distance to the hazards or the pin. I play a lot in South Carolina in the winter and almost all the courses have those little books which tells you the distance to the hazards and the lenght of the greens. Maybe if range finders would be allowed maybe us poor week-end golfers would score better. Have you seen the ad for the Sky caddie? If they are advertising it as a tool to save you 5 strokes or more and make you play faster why should you not take advantage of the new technologie. At that point we might as well go back to the 1980 driver's technology.
Just my opinion.
Thanks
Claude
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05-31-2005 08:24 AM #52Originally Posted by Proforged
The person still has to know the distance they hit their clubs and they have to execute their shot! Saying the range finder is a 15th club is a bit ludicrous. It doesn't correspond to any description of club according to the rules of golf, and as Dan has mentioned, he wouldn't try to hit a ball with it.
How about allowing caddies out for the OGT events. Maybe I'll pay a guy to walk the course during a practice round, use a laser range finder to build up a course map and then caddy for me during the event. Would that be unfair? It's allowed under the rules of golf, would it be unfair because I could afford it and someone else can't?
On the OGT we can roll the ball in the fairway (stickhandle) to get a decent lie because a lot of courses we play on have some poor fairways, the OGT organizers can't get out to mark every bad spot as ground under repair, etc. Some courses have terrible markings for distances, even wrong markings. We played Heritage yesterday and the signs on the holes and the yardages on the card were different on several holes. How fair is that to the average golfer?
I think they should be allowed everywhere, anytime.
My $0.02It could be that the purpose of your life is only to serve as a warning to others.
Colby
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05-31-2005 10:42 AM #53"Richard"Guest
You give me the top 100 players in the world, take away their caddy's and make them carry or pull or push their own clubs and they won't score nearly as well as they do right now. Will they still be better than me, yes on 71 out of 72 holes they will Anyway, the rangefinder helps but for $230 I didn't need it and returned it. I have a better idea of distances now after using it for only 3 weeks. GT returned it, full price. What more can I ask for.
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06-01-2005 07:25 AM #54
Talk about timing, last night on the Golf Channel, Frank Thomas the ex-USGA honcho, responded to a question about laser rangefinders/GPS, that he thought that you would see a change in the rules very soon to allow them in tournament play. He implied that it would even out the advantage a pro/caddie has from the amature.
Rusty
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06-01-2005 07:28 AM #55
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06-01-2005 09:29 AM #56Originally Posted by Steve Karam[COLOR=green][B]Golf is a game invented by the same people who think music comes out of bagpipes.[/B][/COLOR]
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06-01-2005 02:38 PM #57
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