Ruling?

[John]

Me neither!

[tyorke2]

I for one am very glad we have ROs here helping everyone understand the rules. Not sure where the 'looking down' comment comes from. Seems that sometimes people are only happy if the news (ruling) is what they want to hear. Sometimes the cry of 'unfair' sounds like an attempt to gather support for not following a rule. Still the rules are the rules, like them or not.

Great point. The only reason we learn the rules is so that we can help the players. Our goal is NOT to prove our intelligence.

[AAA]

Me neither!

So how do you know what the rules really are?

[Big Johnny69]

Why do you need to own a rule book to know the rules?

[John]

In ten years of playing I've been in one situation where I didn't know how the rules were applied. I don't need a rule book in my bag. I'd like to see a poll of how many golfers carry a rule book and refer to it during a round. I've never seen a player pull out one in my life.

[AAA]

Why do you need to own a rule book to know the rules?

You don't but I'm curious about how someone learns the rule that applies to situation without owning or having access to the book. How do they keep up with new or revised rules or decisions?

[Big Johnny69]

You don't but I'm curious about how someone learns the rule that applies to situation without owning or having access to the book. How do they keep up with new or revised rules or decisions?

The internet, pretty sure any changes will be updated there before the newest edition comes out in print.

[Chieflongtee]

You don't but I'm curious about how someone learns the rule that applies to situation without owning or having access to the book. How do they keep up with new or revised rules or decisions?

That's one way:

http://www.usga.org/rules/Additional...Notifications/

ADDITIONAL RULES NOTIFICATIONS

The Rules are reviewed jointly by the USGA and The R&A Rules Limited. Any proposed change must be agreed by both bodies before it can be adopted. The Rules of Golf are revised on a four-year cycle. The USGA is the governing body of golf in the United States and Mexico, while The R&A is the governing body in all other parts of the world.

• Joint Statement The Use Of Video And Other Visual Evidence
• Amendments To The 2012-2013 Decisions On The Rules Of Golf
• Understanding Rule 14-1b
• Clarification On Definition Of Addressing The Ball
• Information On The Usage Of Distance Measuring Devices

[AAA]

The internet, pretty sure any changes will be updated there before the newest edition comes out in print.

If that keeps you right on top of the rules, I am impressed.

Incidentally, the printed books are published and distributed weeks before the on-line versions are updated on Jan 1 of the relevant year.

[Big Johnny69]

If that keeps you right on top of the rules, I am impressed.

Incidentally, the printed books are published and distributed weeks before the on-line versions are updated on Jan 1 of the relevant year.

Good to know. But I don't play during the winter months, so really doesn't affect me.

[jonf]

Informal poll: what percentage of rounds played do you think are played by golfers who are playing 100 percent by the rules?

[Txxxxxxx]

Informal poll: what percentage of rounds played do you think are played by golfers who are playing 100 percent by the rules?

Unless there are rules we are unaware of, which is totally possible, due to the ambiguity of some rulings, and the fact there are so many sections and sub sections, I'll vote for 100% by the rules from everyone I play with.

I'm lucky enough to play with jvincent and mjf, who seem to know even what text font, or print size the rule book is printed in.

So if I ever need clarification, I ask them.

[jonf]

That's not the question. Of all rounds of golf played on a given day, (not with your friends, or at your club, or even in your city) how many are played 100 percent by the rules?

[Txxxxxxx]

That's a pretty stupid question then. One that cannot be answered. How the hell would we know how golfers play the game, except for who we actually see? HAHA!

You may as well ask how many stars are in the sky...

If you're trying to prove the point that not many people play 100% by the rules, I don't know how we could come to that conclusion without evaluating every game of golf on earth.....Not really a question that a poll result would prove either way...


In the end, we should not chastise anyone for not knowing the rules 100%. As long as they are enjoying themselves playing the game, and people continue to take up the sport.

It's no secret that golf is hurting, and the last thing we need to do, is drive people away from the enjoyment, by shoving rule books down their throat.

[LobWedge]

In the end, we should not chastise anyone for not knowing the rules 100%. As long as they are enjoying themselves playing the game, and people continue to take up the sport.

It's no secret that golf is hurting, and the last thing we need to do, is drive people away from the enjoyment, by shoving rule books down their throat.

No one is chastising people for not "knowing the rules 100%". On the contrary. We who know the rules at an advanced level encourage everyone to take the opportunity to expand their knowledge in order to get the most they can out of playing this great game. If someone chooses to not take advantage of the readily available resources to do this (print, internet, etc.) that's their issue. Do I lose any sleep over that? No. But I also think that it's 100% inexcusable to take a stance from an uninformed position by painting a rule as "stupid" just because you don't understand it, or worse, don't even take the time to try to understand. That's just out and out lazy.

Do I know and understand every rule 100%? No. But I ask questions if I need clarification. Do I think that the rules could be revisited periodically to explore areas of change and improvement? Absolutely. And i'll make those suggestions if I feel that they may have some merit. However, in either case, I'm damn sure that I have my together before I go asking, and not just storm in and sit in the middle of the floor with a lip on and and cry "just because".

If people have something constructive to bring to the discussion, with a reasonable range of thoughts to back up their claim, come on in. If not, stop wasting everyone's time.

[Txxxxxxx]

No one is chastising people for not "knowing the rules 100%". On the contrary. We who know the rules at an advanced level encourage everyone to take the opportunity to expand their knowledge in order to get the most they can out of playing this great game. If someone chooses to not take advantage of the readily available resources to do this (print, internet, etc.) that's their issue. Do I lose any sleep over that? No. But I also think that it's 100% inexcusable to take a stance from an uninformed position by painting a rule as "stupid" just because you don't understand it, or worse, don't even take the time to try to understand. That's just out and out lazy.

Do I know and understand every rule 100%? No. But I ask questions if I need clarification. Do I think that the rules could be revisited periodically to explore areas of change and improvement? Absolutely. And i'll make those suggestions if I feel that they may have some merit. However, in either case, I'm damn sure that I have my together before I go asking, and not just storm in and sit in the middle of the floor with a lip on and and cry "just because".

If people have something constructive to bring to the discussion, with a reasonable range of thoughts to back up their claim, come on in. If not, stop wasting everyone's time.

I'm fairly certain you wrote, that if people don't know the two rules you quoted, they shouldn't be playing golf.


In any case. I've already made my point. And we can move on now.

Also, if you feel this is a waste of your time, feel free to move along to another thread, and ignore this one. ;-)

[BC MIST]

Unless there are rules we are unaware of, which is totally possible, due to the ambiguity of some rulings, and the fact there are so many sections and sub sections, I'll vote for 100% by the rules from everyone I play with.

Some rules are ambiguous? Which ones?

[BC MIST]

No one is chastising people for not "knowing the rules 100%". On the contrary. We who know the rules at an advanced level encourage everyone to take the opportunity to expand their knowledge in order to get the most they can out of playing this great game. If someone chooses to not take advantage of the readily available resources to do this (print, internet, etc.) that's their issue. Do I lose any sleep over that? No. But I also think that it's 100% inexcusable to take a stance from an uninformed position by painting a rule as "stupid" just because you don't understand it, or worse, don't even take the time to try to understand. That's just out and out lazy.

Do I know and understand every rule 100%? No. But I ask questions if I need clarification. Do I think that the rules could be revisited periodically to explore areas of change and improvement? Absolutely. And i'll make those suggestions if I feel that they may have some merit. However, in either case, I'm damn sure that I have my together before I go asking, and not just storm in and sit in the middle of the floor with a lip on and and cry "just because".

If people have something constructive to bring to the discussion, with a reasonable range of thoughts to back up their claim, come on in. If not, stop wasting everyone's time.

No ambiguity here.