Trackman vs foresight gc2 with hmt

[Mrpetrov]

I'm in central London, so have limited indoor space - hence the foresight appeals to me. I also like the idea of accurate path and face angle data, as I find the flightscope x2 at my local range to be regularly inaccurate (impossible data for centre hits, etc). One key question I have is, once you've marked your clubs for HMT can those markers be kept on for normal outdoor play, even if its raining, muddy etc?

Thanks,
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[GolfMonster2]

Yes definitely. They are outside the impact area anyway.

[Mrpetrov]

Thanks a lot GM2 for the quick response. I don't suppose you could post a picture of the markers on the irons and driver - I've tried searching the web for images of the club markers but couldn't find any. No worries if not of course.

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[CPA]

Best evidence is the pommy golf guru himself. Plays on the course with hos HMT markers.

[CPA]

You tube search askgolfguru mark crossfield he is a big gc2 fan now.

[Mrpetrov]

Thanks CPA, found some shots of the markers on youtube. Am I right in thinking the HMT must provide more accurate and reliable face angle, AoA and face-impact position data than doppler systems? I mean, the latter just interpolate that data right, whereas HMT actually measures it? Doppler is better for ball flight, but if you're trying to improve your impact position, isn't HMT better than any doppler system?

My apologies if I've got this all wrong.

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[bubba22]

Mrpetrov this debate of the best way to capture club data is ongoing. My opinion is that capturing club data is very difficult and no approach is perfect. This has been discussed in this and other threads. Frans?

[Frans@france]

Mrpetrov this debate of the best way to capture club data is ongoing. My opinion is that capturing club data is very difficult and no approach is perfect. This has been discussed in this and other threads. Frans?

Yes, I agree it's an ongoing discussion for the moment. Now if foresight would make it possible by using some calibration tool to calibrate AND aligne the cg2 and the HMT in relation to each other then we might finally reach a conclusion

[bubba22]

Frans so your thought is that the HMT and the GC2 are not well calibrated and work as 2 independent units? The recent data from the HMT is much better than the original release from a few years ago.

[Frans@france]

Frans so your thought is that the HMT and the GC2 are not well calibrated and work as 2 independent units?

Correct.

The recent data from the HMT is much better than the original release from a few years ago.

I have seen recent data that is still weird for almost all shots. It still shows the horz. ball direction being outside the angle formed between face and path

[bubba22]

Yes I agree Frans the numbers at off. The original numbers from a few years ago were even worse however.

[CPA]

Which is one of the reasons I will stick with Swingbyte. Data just as accurate and video thrown in!

[bubba22]

I agree with you CPA. Swingbyte a cheaper and probably as effective option for club data. CPA how is the video integration for Swingbyte going? Looks like it is available for only IPad for now?

[CPA]

The video is invaluable. I have the targetline beta and data is looking sweet now.

My view is this is a must buy. Yes no Android for moment.

[bubba22]

Easy CPA! Probably not a must buy, but certainly a good buy I agree giving the price.

[CPA]

I will stick with must Bubba. The 3D view of swing at top, ability to assess swing path, clubface at top and then AOA throughout is a great teaching tool.

[Mrpetrov]

I will stick with must Bubba. The 3D view of swing at top, ability to assess swing path, clubface at top and then AOA throughout is a great teaching tool.

Interesting to see you so positive about the SB - the amazon reviews are pretty horrid (esp. with regards to the module needing to be reseated regularly)? My local range is off mats, so I'd be worried about having o reseat the SB on the shaft given how jarring fat hits can be off mats. What's your experience been CPA with regards to how firm it grips the shaft?

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[Frans@france]

Which is one of the reasons I will stick with Swingbyte. Data just as accurate and video thrown in!

You might want to read some more about drift...

[CPA]

Can you post a link Frans.

SB 2 has better attachment and in my experience rarely moves.

[bubba22]

I have a Swingbyte coming so will be testing this week. Until one tests it I would not call it a must! Each individual needs to decide based on personal choice.

[CPA]

When are they saying targetline fix will be released?

[bubba22]

Not sure. I hope soon. I do think it is a good device and the targetline makes sense.

[CPA]

Just looked Bubba. Looks like they are awaiting clearance in the app store.

[bubba22]

Cool. It's gonna be interesting to test. The video is available in IPad now right?

[CPA]

Yes but not with targetline

[bubba22]

Targetline is what's needed.

[CPA]

It is accuracy issue, otherwise targetline is set at clubface at address, and that can be a floating number.

[CPA]

Getting back more to thread Frans do you have SB2 to give comparison to Trackman?

[bubba22]

As well we need to have a SB2 compared to GC2 HMT. I will be reviewing the SB2 with ProTee. Seeing how the SB2 compares with Trackman and GC2 HMT will be interesting.

[Frans@france]

Getting back more to thread Frans do you have SB2 to give comparison to Trackman?

No, but I also don't know people around here that own one. Otherwise it would be fun to do...