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09-09-2012 12:18 AM #1
Optimal shaft for driver?
One of my driver shafts broke, so I'd like to buy a high performance shaft for it. Im using a Callaway Razr hawk 9.5 head. Normally I shave the driver shafts down to 44.5 inches, stock lengths are too long!
At golftown I hit into their simulator and obtained some stats.
Swing speed: 101-102 mph
Ball speed: 150 mph
V launch: 18-20 degrees
Backspin: 4500-4900 rpm
Smash : 1.40-1.45
Carry: 250 yards
I was in jeans, dressed shoes, not much warm up so I could hit it harder but this is to give me an idea of where to start.
My shot flight is mostly fade to right, or push right. What annoys me is that I get no roll off my drives. Would a shaft help with more roll or is that the club head? I hit up on the ball and they go very high. I used to play a 8.5 head but cant find those anymore.
Thoughts?You only get out of something what you put into it
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09-09-2012 05:01 AM #2
I believe your backspin is too high , which is why you get no roll , as for the rest , i'm sure a clubfitter would have the cure to your ill
At the end of the day ... It gets dark
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09-09-2012 08:07 AM #3
Pablo, don't be fooled by the "high $$$ == high performance" hype. There are likely lots of shaft options that will help you out for a lot less $$$.
That being said, spin is more about loft and swing than shaft. Remember, your 9.5 is probably not a real 9.5. Your swing is also pretty upright, well compared to me anyway, and that combined with a fade is going to result in a lot of backspin.Not fat anymore. Need to get better at golf now!
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09-09-2012 08:37 AM #4
I'm surprised that you are getting 250 carry with those launch and spin numbers.
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09-09-2012 08:56 AM #5
I've got a Razr Hawk Tour 10.5* with the following 45" shaft and I love it.
http://arthursports.com/product.php
XCaliber T6+
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09-09-2012 06:25 PM #6
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09-09-2012 06:28 PM #7
If it works for you, then it's not overrated. That's the problem, you need to actually hit them to figure out if they work for you.
Not fat anymore. Need to get better at golf now!
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09-09-2012 06:45 PM #8
Forgot to mention, if you are hitting it too high, you probably want something with a stiffer tip section and a higher bend point.
That's just general guidance of course.Not fat anymore. Need to get better at golf now!
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09-09-2012 07:03 PM #9
Arthur Extreme Shafts!
Here you go:
http://www.golfworks.ca/product.asp_Q_pn_E_AS0009
You're Welcome!Obviously you're not a golfer.
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09-09-2012 07:16 PM #10
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09-10-2012 10:22 AM #11
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09-10-2012 12:48 PM #12
i'd go with one of the AXE shafts been thinking about pulling the trigger on one for awhile now. seem to be the best bang for your buck. based on your launch and spin i'd say you could hit up on the ball a little more, i suffer from the same problem. we should be contacting the ball on the upswing with the driver.
"I'm a hockey player but I'm here to play golf today" Happy Gilmore
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09-10-2012 02:25 PM #13
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I inputed your #'s into my launch monitor using Ottawa sea level readings and outside weather conditions, 150 BS, 19* LA and 4800 prm backspin. Take note that by doing it this way, it defaults to a square clubface at impact with a level angle of attack. Also missing is where on the face impact occurs,static loft and face angle measurement to determine clubface angle at impact.
I come up with a line on the graph that shoots up to about 55' in the air at the 150yd. mark, stays there for 35 yrs. and drops to the earth at the 239 mark and spits foward to 247 total.
First thing I want to point out is your outstanding Smach Factor !!! Right up there with Rory and Tiger !!! Only thing is, with a 1.45 SF, you should be hitting the ball a ton further ! You are missing out on roughly 23+ yrds. simply by lowering your backspin by a mere 2000 rpm's. Bad news is, your problem is swing related, a defenite negative angle of attack here judging by the amount of spin.
No combination of shaft/ head /ball will yield a reduction in spin without severe trade offs.
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09-11-2012 07:33 PM #14
Thanks for the info Les. I was hoping I could buy some new equipment to solve my problem...
Guess notYou only get out of something what you put into it
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09-13-2012 12:33 PM #15
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08-22-2013 12:50 PM #16
Downhillslider gave me a fitting last week. The Razr Hawk 9.5 club I am using was measured to actually have 13 degrees of loft! Also I occasionally hit up on the crown of the driver which adds more loft, so it's no wonder I'm getting no roll. Gonna try a Wishon head that's measured at 10 degrees to see if it helps.
Lessons as a last resortYou only get out of something what you put into it
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08-22-2013 01:22 PM #17
You definitely hit a very high ball with driver.
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08-22-2013 01:23 PM #18
This is why I play a Wishon 919 Thi driver which has been digitally measured to 10* by Wishon.
Obviously you're not a golfer.
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08-22-2013 01:27 PM #19
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Callaway Razr Hawk Tour 9.5
0.5* open face
11.5* in the center of the face
13.5* in the optimum contact area of the face ( just above the center line )
14.5* where Nokids makes contact 95% of the time, just bellow the crown.
I should point out that he is in the always in the middle of the face, very consistant, just a little high, er, a lot !
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08-22-2013 01:31 PM #20
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08-22-2013 02:04 PM #21
I'm playing the stock G20 shaft and it just works. Sometimes its just that easy.
I got a fever. And the only prescription is more golf equipment.
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08-22-2013 02:09 PM #22
So I'm carrying the ball mostly 250 now, hypothetically, if I keep hitting the ball the way I do, same swing speed, what should my new carry distance be with 2 degrees less loft?
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08-22-2013 02:14 PM #23
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08-22-2013 03:59 PM #24
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i have been using an Xcalber for 3 months now love it fantastic value
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08-22-2013 09:45 PM #25
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Can't calculate this with simply a L A decrease because the spin would change also, not to mention the difference in head design ( Wishon ) with a slight higher and more forward center of gravity.
Your swingspeed is in the 112 range and not the 101 you said last year, so I'm not even going to guess.
Next step is the launch monitor.
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08-23-2013 07:02 AM #26
http://www.trajectoware.com/wrap.php...scription.html free download
You could input some hypothetical numbers and see the difference but to be 100% sure you'd have to know the exact numbers as suggested aboveLive as if you were to die tomorrow. Learn as if you were to live forever.
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08-25-2013 07:54 PM #27
Statistically signifigant results?
Two full rounds with my Wishon 10.5 head and Matrix shaft. Hit 20/28 fairways (71%) as opposed to my 40% avg that I kept track of all year. Flight is lower with very little side spin, and I'm seeing actual roll after my ball lands which gives me an extra 10-20 yards EASILY. I'm one happy client, thank you Les!You only get out of something what you put into it
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