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06-11-2012 08:32 PM #1
Smartphones illegal?
I was thinking on using my iphone for tournament play and I was told it was illegal because it had a compass?
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06-11-2012 08:35 PM #2
Yes, smartphones are not permitted in tournament play because they have many features which are not allowed under the rules.
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06-11-2012 08:40 PM #3
I didn't know that. Guess I won't be selling my SGX.
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06-11-2012 08:54 PM #4
Wow! Didn't know that I have a skycaddie but I also have a gps app on my iPhone just on case.
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06-12-2012 05:18 AM #5
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06-12-2012 09:14 AM #6
As I have stated before, this is a silly rule. We're trusted to call penalties on ourselves but we can't be trusted not to look at a compass on our smart phones?
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06-12-2012 09:28 AM #7
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What benefit is the compass? Am I not allowed to look at the sun for direction either?
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06-12-2012 09:29 AM #8
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06-12-2012 09:42 AM #9
Smart phones can be the source of a lot of information - not just a compass. There is also weather reports and even an app that can make your phone a level that could be used to measure slope of the green, and who knows what else. A dedicated GPS is ok since that is all it does.
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06-12-2012 09:59 AM #10
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The Rules of Golf do NOT allow us to use distance measuring devices. Rule 14-3. The fact that the Rules do permit golf clubs and golf associations to put into effect, a Local Rule allowing there use, is something that we should appreciate.
I wonder, too, how many here play at clubs where they know, with certainty, that the Local Rule is posted. Greensmere has the LR, but I also know of clubs where nothing is written, but members still use DMD's, contrary to 14-3.
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06-12-2012 10:18 AM #11
...yet it's a local rule for OVGA competitions whether or not it's posted in the LR of the club.
...so does this mean that I cannot post scores I play at away clubs due to the fact that I did not check to see if there was a LR for DMDs?[color=blue]s[/color][color=red]p[/color][color=blue]i[/color][color=red]d[/color][color=blue]e[/color][color=red]y[/color]
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06-12-2012 10:22 AM #12
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06-12-2012 11:33 AM #13
If we were to follow every single rule of golf, it would be a very dull game!
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06-12-2012 12:18 PM #14
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06-12-2012 12:42 PM #15
At the golftown events they have a local rule that you can use your smartphone for apps like golflogix etc. they even encourage live scoring using your smartphone using thief website!
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06-12-2012 01:18 PM #16
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06-12-2012 01:20 PM #17
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(1) Correct. The OVGA has no control over what Local Rules its member clubs decides to use, but it decides what Local rules need to be put into effect for each tournament that it conducts, regardless of what the host clubs LR's are. The OVGA's Standard Local Rules are posted on its website. In addition, when we preview a golf course before a tournament, additional local rules may have to be added, depending on the marking and condition of the host course.
(2) Technically, yes. Since the use of DMD's is against the rules, and since scores posted for handicap purposes must be played by the Rules, using a DMD at a club that does not permit its use, would make the score ineligible for posting.
Not meant to stir the pot, but how many clubs that you go to have a set of Local Rules posted and in effect, showing just how "with it" they are? Probably not very many, overall. Are you not glad that we are an exception?
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06-12-2012 01:23 PM #18
I'm with Lobbie on this one. If you don't play by the rules there is no point in keeping score. Nothing wrong with doing that, but I prefer to count em up - whatever they add up to.
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06-12-2012 01:25 PM #19When applying the Rules, you follow them line by line. You don't read between them.
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06-12-2012 01:29 PM #20
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06-12-2012 01:30 PM #21
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06-12-2012 01:46 PM #22
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06-12-2012 01:46 PM #23
I'm not trying to be sanctimonious here, but the more I study the Rules of Golf, the more I understand why they're written the way they are. The language is very precise for a reason, and "lines" are drawn to protect the integrity of the game. Are the Rules fair? Yes, as fair as they can be. Are the Rules reviewed constantly? Yes, based on observations, study, and input from a multitude of sources (including people like us). The Rules and Decisions are living documents, and I'm certain we haven't heard the last on this subject. One of the issues that the R&A/USGA, et al, are dealing with is that information technology is changing more rapidly than the Rules can be updated. They are fully aware of this, and are working very hard to keep up.
If you have a concern about a Rule, or just want to know more about why it's written the way it is, I know that Brent McLaughlin and Dean Ryan are more than happy to answer your questions if you send them an email.When applying the Rules, you follow them line by line. You don't read between them.
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06-12-2012 01:50 PM #24
They allowed people to do so at the glen abbey tournament, and in previous ones also. When you go check in ask them at the desk for final confirmation, but they have in the past.
I agree with you, but the guys running from my understaning also run in conjunction with the Great Lakes tour. Its not just golftown running the events, but I wonder if they let The Great Lakes tour guys use them or not.
Either way I use sky caddie for my distances, but I guess when I use my phone to keep my score and stats I'm in breach of this rule, and those score shouldn't count.
Ah well, there goes my handicap.
I agree with Jeffc
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06-12-2012 02:00 PM #25
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06-12-2012 02:01 PM #26
Just found it on the Great Lakes Tour. Althought it doesn't say anything about smartphones, but they do allow DMD.
RULES AMENDMENTS
The following amendments in accordance to the Rules of Golf in Appendix 1/Part B are in effect: See RCGA Rules of Golf Book
for complete details.
1.
Areas of the Course Requiring Preservation; Environmentally Sensitive Areas page 124
When Environmentally Sensitive Areas exist at a championship, copies of the Local Rule will be available from the
starter.
2.
Embedded Ball Through the Green (Rule 25-2) page 127
Extended to include areas Through the Green.
3.
Aeration Holes page 129
Relief from aeration holes is
only available for the lie of the ball.
4.
Seams of Cut Turf page 129
Relief from seams of cut turf is
only available for the lie of the ball.
5.
Temporary Obstructions page 131
When temporary obstructions exist at a championship, the status of such obstructions will be available from the
starter.
6. Distance-Measuring Devices page 136
Distance-Measuring Devices are Permitted use. Penalty is DISQUALIFICATION.
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06-12-2012 02:09 PM #27
you're missing the point Rich. Golf is supposed to be a game of honour. According to the rules, we are supposed to call penalties on ourselves, regardless if anyone has seen it happen or not. So we ARE trusted to do this, but NOT trusted to operate a smart phone to only access our GPS/scoring app (or email, answer a call, etc.) but not the other ones (level, compass, etc.). It seems like the powers that be are talking out of both sides of their mouths.
As for the others, I don't know how a weather report is going to help me, let alone a compass, or level, but if that's the rule then so be it. If Rangefinders measure slope are against the rule then that's fine as well, though I don't think they would provide me with a big advantage either, some might but not me. Again, if you can turn slope off somehow then I don't have a problem with people using them, you can only keep the honest people honest.I got a fever. And the only prescription is more golf equipment.
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06-12-2012 02:32 PM #28
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