Interesting Statistics-How Do You Rate?

[BC MIST]

From the United States Golf Foundation in conjunction with Strategics Links Corporation, the results of a survey of roughly 100,000 golfers, produced some interesting golf stats as they related to a range of handicaps. Perhaps some of you who keep various statistics, might like to compare your stats to those listed below.

Handicap 0 10 20 30
Fairways(%) 65 60 55 40
Tee shot Distance 242 230 215 200
GIR(%) 66 50 41 25
Pitch Up & Down(%) 50 42 33 15
Chip Up & Down(%) 75 60 45 30
Putts / Round 30 34 39 45
Sand Saves(%) 45 34 30 15
Ave. Pen. Strokes .5 1.6 4.5 6.0

[powerlefty]

Here are my numbers for 31 rounds this year shown after the stats for the 100,000:

Handicap 0 10 20 30 {10.6}
Fairways(%) 65 60 55 40 {39}
Tee shot Distance 242 230 215 200 {254}
GIR(%) 66 50 41 25 36
Pitch Up & Down(%) 50 42 33 15 {Not Tracked}
Chip Up & Down(%) 75 60 45 30 {33}
Putts / Round 30 34 39 45 {34}
Sand Saves(%) 45 34 30 15 {32}
Ave. Pen. Strokes .5 1.6 4.5 6.0 {2.7}


Interesting. Kind of confirms what I already knew. Looks like I am less accurate, longer, have a weaker chipping game, and get more penalties (see accuracy) compared to average. Everyting else is just about tracking the averages.

[gbower]

Had a look at my stats for the year and a couple of interesting points

Handicap 0 10 20 30 (7.5)
Fairways(%) 65 60 55 40 (71%)
Tee shot Distance 242 230 215 200 (about 230)
GIR(%) 66 50 41 25 (46%)
Pitch Up & Down(%) 50 42 33 15
Chip Up & Down(%) 75 60 45 30 (34%)
Putts / Round 30 34 39 45 (32.4)
Sand Saves(%) 45 34 30 15 (9%)
Ave. Pen. Strokes .5 1.6 4.5 6.0 (.55)


My penalty strokes are down this year and definitely have to stay out of the few bunkers that we have. Would like to get the GIR up but it is still better this year than last. Was surprised by the fairways hit as I thought it was a bit lower than what I actually had. Also thought that my up & downs were considerably better so I know what to work on again this winter.

[LBH]

Handicap 0 10 20 30 (3.5)
Fairways(%) 65 60 55 40 (60.6)
Tee shot Distance 242 230 215 200 (285+)
GIR(%) 66 50 41 25 (45.4)
Pitch Up & Down(%) 50 42 33 15 Not calculated but based on my low GIR percentage (for my handicap), I would assume it is pretty good
Chip Up & Down(%) 75 60 45 30 Ditto
Putts / Round 30 34 39 45 (31.86)
Sand Saves(%) 45 34 30 15 Not calculated
Ave. Pen. Strokes .5 1.6 4.5 6.0 Not calculated but I would say it is around 0.5.

[BC MIST]

Handicap 0 10 20 30 (1.4)
Fairways(%) 65 60 55 40 (82.5%)
Tee shot Distance 242 230 215 200 (240 to 260)
GIR(%) 66 50 41 25 (79%)
Pitch Up & Down(%) 50 42 33 15
Chip Up & Down(%) 75 60 45 30 (Combined 45.6%)
Putts / Round 30 34 39 45 (33.18)
Sand Saves(%) 45 34 30 15
Ave. Pen. Strokes .5 1.6 4.5 6.0[/QUOTE]

SA = 73.02
PPGIR = 1.90
3 Putts = 72 in 51 Games

All stats are home course only.

[Miracle]

Handicap 0 10 20 30 (7)
Fairways(%) 65 60 55 40 (77%)
Tee shot Distance 242 230 215 200 (250)
GIR(%) 66 50 41 25 ( 70%)
Pitch Up & Down(%) 50 42 33 15 ( 45%)
Chip Up & Down(%) 75 60 45 30 (70%)
Putts / Round 30 34 39 45 (40)
Sand Saves(%) 45 34 30 15 ( 50%)


As you can see putting is my downfall But I'm Just a kid so i still have time to fix it. I hope

[faldo]

Hey man, no offense intended but get that putter under control!!
Averaging 40 putts is weak for a bad golfer

How do you do it?
I'm guessing you have 2+ 1-putts a round countered by 6+ 3-putts :shake

Are you often starting the 1st putt from the 30-50 ft range? If so, maybe a short game lesson would hit the spot!! Learning to get the ball into an area starting 15 ft (or better) away from the pin is a great cure for messing up those long 1st whacks.

Ciao,

[BC MIST]

Hey man, no offense intended but get that putter under control!!
Averaging 40 putts is weak for a bad golfer
How do you do it?
I'm guessing you have 2+ 1-putts a round countered by 6+ 3-putts :shake
Are you often starting the 1st putt from the 30-50 ft range? If so, maybe a short game lesson would hit the spot!! Learning to get the ball into an area starting 15 ft (or better) away from the pin is a great cure for messing up those long 1st whacks.

Because Miracle averages 12.6 GIR, it is understandable that there would be a larger than average number of 3 putts, particularly if the greens on which he plays are large, and/or bumpy, and/or slow, and/or very fast. One statistic that could be calculated is the putts per GIR. For a handicap of 7, anything over 2.00 is sub-standard.

Getting the ball within 15' after the chips and pitches is a little far for a 7. If you are suggesting that getting the GIR's to within 15', then the number is out of whack as not even the Tour players accomplish this.

My guess is that there is a lot of wristy-flick going on in the putting and chipping strokes so an effort to firm up the wrists, trying to keep the hands ahead of the ball at impact, might help. In practice I hit a lot of chips and putts, too, with my bottom hand only on the club. Start with a 2" to 3" gap between the top of the grip and the underside of the forearm and as you hit these short shots, maintain this gap after impact. It is very difficult to do initially, however, in time, the arm becomes stronger. This will really keep the hands from flipping, should this be the problem.

Miracle: Do you really get up and down from the sand 50% of the time? This is getting near Tour quality and the Tour players are good putters.

[el tigre]

Hey man, no offense intended but get that putter under control!!
Averaging 40 putts is weak for a bad golfer

How do you do it?

It could also be that he is not counting his putts correctly. Many people count a putt as "every stroke made with a putter" - including those from the fringe or fairway. This has the effect of increasing your GIR% and your Average Putts per Round number.

When I first started keeping stats I counted this way because it seemed to make sense. It was a couple of years until I discovered that an "official" putt is from putting green only.

[skull]

Most of those averages are pretty close except for driving, both my distance and accuracy are much better. ( i'm a 5 )

[sillywilly]

killbank, I'd be interested in seeing your numbers if you have them. You to geoff

[byerxa]

Here is my latest. Includes 7 rounds in the last 2 weeks in Myrtle Beach

Handicap 0 10 20 30 (12.2 index)
Fairways(%) 65 60 55 40 (48.5%)
Tee shot Distance 242 230 215 200 (230)
GIR(%) 66 50 41 25 (45.6%)
Pitch Up & Down(%) 50 42 33 15 (combined with chips)
Chip Up & Down(%) 75 60 45 30 (27.6%)
Putts / Round 30 34 39 45 (34.1)
Sand Saves(%) 45 34 30 15 (14.3%)
Ave. Pen. Strokes .5 1.6 4.5 6.0 (2.5)

Hmmm. I track against the Golf Channels Game Tracker and here is what they have in their database for a 12:
Putts per Round: 33
Fairways Hit: 51.44%
GIR: 35.18%
Sand Saves: 4.67%
Up and Downs: 36.33%
Penalty Strokes: 2.00

I find the results in the Golf Channel database much more in line with my game. Although my fairway numbers aren't great, I usually don't miss by much except for a couple of crazy blocks (hence the higher penalty stroke count). And I hit lots of greens. But my short game around the green is brutal. I leave on average 3-5 easy strokes out there on relatively simple chips and pitches around the green. When I compare my numbers to the average "9" everything is OK except my up&down number really sucks (they have 46% for a 9). Blatantly obvious what I need to work on.

[sillywilly]

how are you guys tracking this stuff?? I'm going to track it as well. I'm guessing not all of you have GPS so how do you know your average tee shot? Also, is that average on all par 4's and 5's?? Just par 5's?? What is the dif between a chip and a pitch? At what point does a chip become a pitch? Finally, dan.. does intelligolf track all this for me anyway?

[Kilroy]

2007 stats

Handicap 0 10 20 30 (12.6 index)
Fairways(%) 65 60 55 40 (61%)
Tee shot Distance 242 230 215 200 (210 - spot checks - not every drive)
GIR(%) 66 50 41 25 (29%)
Putts / Round 30 34 39 45 (33.7)
Ave. Pen. Strokes .5 1.6 4.5 6.0 (1.3)

I need to work on my irons

Intelligolf will record a lot more than that if you put in the data. I get that much from just inputting score, fairway hit # of putts and penalties on each hole.

A pitch is from inside 30 yards. Visualize an underhand softball pitch.
A chip is a greenside "putt" with a lofted club. Get over the rough, and get it rolling asap.

[sillywilly]

only 61% of the fairways?? Thats a little shocking since you hit about 14/14 or at worst 13/14 everytime we have played.

What is a spot check??

What else do you input??

[Kilroy]

Some days are better than others, and an inch off the fairway is a miss. I do have many rounds where I only miss one or two.

I don't measure all my drives, nor only my longest. That is an average of a bunch of drives I did measure. Are you really unfamiliar with the term spot check?

That's all I track. It's plenty.

[sillywilly]

No idea what a spot check is. I just play baby. I'll be posting my stats in this thread at the end of the year.

I guess I could google golf spot check

[Indio]

No idea what a spot check is. I just play baby. I'll be posting my stats in this thread at the end of the year.

I guess I could google golf spot check

Too bad they can't teach common sense in school

[Kilroy]

A "spot check" is just a random sample. Like checking products coming off a production line. You don't inspect every product, you do spot checks.

[ironmaster15213]

I can't get all the info cause I quit a couple of sites, but for the last 111 rounds my handicap is 3.1 (last 20) 66.9 G.I.R., 1.75 putts per hole, 74.4 average score (111 rounds) 50.4 driving accuracy...Not a strong suit , These scores did not include about 12 rounds of golf that I could hardly walk due to knee problems, don't want anybody accusing me of sandbagging. These are always called practice rounds before I start playing.