Who will be #1 on Monday?

**mberube** · 08-19-2004 09:05 AM

All Singh needs to do to wrest the No. 1 ranking in the world away from Woods is finish higher if both are in the top 10 or in a tie if they are outside that number at the NEC.

Do not forget that wining is what Woods has done best at Firestone Country Club. He won the first three NEC Invitationals and has never finished lower than fourth.

What’s your vote and why?

**ros_bif** · 08-19-2004 09:11 AM

I think Tiger's performance at the NEC will be a reflection of his desire to be the best...he is now in a position where he is up against the wall, and needs to preform in order to keep his ranking...we all know he has the game to win, it's jsut a matter of wethere or not it's a priority anymore.

If tiger wants it, i think he can take it..i just don't know if he wants it..but we all know vijay does..so if tiger doesn't come on strong, vijay will walk away with it.

**EDSGOLF** · 08-19-2004 09:38 AM

You would think Tiger would play awesome this week, but he has tried for a while now to do so and sort of hasn't, I say VJ takes over #1.

**golfmania** · 08-19-2004 10:35 AM

Im gonna stick with Tiger. I think when he really feels it, he digs deep. I think he still wants #1.

**NoBack** · 08-19-2004 11:22 AM

Not Tiger!

He has tried his best the last few tounaments he has played in, but has come up short. I dont think this week will any different.

IMO, VJ ihas bee playing the best golf over the long haul and will be rewarded for his efforts this week.

**golfmania** · 08-19-2004 11:31 AM

Originally Posted by Steve Karam

Not Tiger!

Ya, but you know, I'll bet hes reading this forum and hes saying to himself "Im going to prove that Steve Karam guy WRONG!"

**NoBack** · 08-19-2004 11:35 AM

If he was reading this I bet he would have called Butch a long time ago. I guess maybe he missed that post (or two) too.

At least with all his endorsements he's still NO.1 at the bank!!

**mberube** · 08-19-2004 11:51 AM

I hope Singh grabs #1 this week for two reasons:

First, he deserves it. I admit I am a Tiger fan but I will tip my hat to Vijay for his awesome season.

Second, this should shake up Tiger a bit knowing that is no longer the best although he isn’t the best for the last year or so.

I would love to see the big fore playing there best to see who really is the #1.

**LobWedge** · 08-19-2004 12:27 PM

Originally Posted by mberube

I hope Singh grabs #1 this week for two reasons:

First, he deserves it. I admit I am a Tiger fan but I will tip my hat to Vijay for his awesome season.

Second, this should shake up Tiger a bit knowing that is no longer the best although he isn’t the best for the last year or so.

I would love to see the big fore playing there best to see who really is the #1.

I agree. It would be vindication for all those years of practice and playing all over the place.

**fireice** · 08-19-2004 08:17 PM

It would be great to see a new #1, unfortunately this week I think Tiger will rise to the occasion. First round update VJ - 73, Tiger -3 2 holes remaining.

**NoBack** · 08-20-2004 09:55 AM

Always luv watching Tiger putting all the pieces into place. Getting Cink to go up by 5 on thursday is wonderfull strategy.

Thanks for making our weekend.

Singh is just trying to copy Tiger and come from behind. Unlike Tiger though I like his chances better.

**ros_bif** · 08-20-2004 10:51 AM

looks liek tiger 'almost' had a good game...finishing up bogey bogey bogey kinda hurt him though ... lol

(although he is showing potential for this weekend)

**golfmania** · 08-20-2004 11:25 AM

Steve, steve, steve. Singh, +2. Woods, -2.

Care for a friendly wager? If Woods BEATS SINGH, you have to say, "YYAAA, Tiger. You're the best"...and thats it. If Singh beats Tiger, all Tiger fans have to do the same.

**NoBack** · 08-20-2004 12:24 PM

golfmania

I'm in for that one.

I've already done the :readheart Tiger :readheart

**golfmania** · 08-20-2004 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Steve Karam

I've already done the :readheart Tiger :readheart

hahahah....havent seen that...funny.

**Weazl** · 08-20-2004 01:11 PM

My vote is Tiger, although he'll finish 2nd this weekend to Weir. I don't mind if Tiger loses just not to the "I'm so godd cuz I [play 3 times the tournaments as everyone else" Singh guy!!!!! Good season yes, best golfer in the world, no. Deserving tobe number one, inconclusive to me. Scoing average is Mickelson and Els, not Singh, I like Els. Let's go Weirsy & Woods!!!

**ros_bif** · 08-20-2004 01:14 PM

well it's still early, but weir and woods are off to much better starts than els and singh...

http://worldgolfchampionships.com/scoring/leaderboard/r

**NoBack** · 08-20-2004 01:48 PM

just not to the "I'm so godd cuz I [play 3 times the tournaments as everyone else" Singh guy!!!!! .

You would think the Tiger-Lovers would want to see Tiger more than the 15-20 times a year you see him now. It's guys like VJ and those other players who play a full season on tour that keeps us coming back, not the Tigers who play only when it suits their needs.

ros_bif................ good thing there's no cut or we all loose Singh, Els and Mickelson in the fantasy pools.

**golfmania** · 08-20-2004 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by Steve Karam

You would think the Tiger-Lovers would want to see Tiger more than the 15-20 times a year you see him now. It's guys like VJ and those other players who play a full season on tour that keeps us coming back, not the Tigers who play only when it suits their needs.

I wouldn't say I'm a "Tiger "lover", Im a golf lover, but i love watching him play well. His frequency I'll leave to him. Hes managing his career, as any professional should do.

**ros_bif** · 08-20-2004 02:20 PM

The thing i don't like about Singh playing ALL the tournaments is that he plays in some of the tournaments that are near the end of the season, and that as a general rule, the top guys don't show to...

I don't like this, because it's nice to see some of the guys struggling to have a good chance at a prize...these are the tournaments that these guys wait all year for...having someoen like vijay show up prolly stings a little...just my 2 cents

Andru · 08-20-2004 02:24 PM

Originally Posted by ros_bif

The thing i don't like about Singh playing ALL the tournaments is that he plays in some of the tournaments that are near the end of the season, and that as a general rule, the top guys don't show to...

I don't like this, because it's nice to see some of the guys struggling to have a good chance at a prize...these are the tournaments that these guys wait all year for...having someoen like vijay show up prolly stings a little...just my 2 cents

Hey ONe of those late season tourneys is the Canadian Open. I want the best to show up. VJ is there year in and year out. That's why I like the guy.

**NoBack** · 08-20-2004 02:34 PM

Hey ONe of those late season tourneys is the Canadian Open. I want the best to show up. VJ is there year in and year out. That's why I like the guy.

My point exactly

Side Note about Canadian Open...... also to be there with VJ are Weir, Ames, Verplank, Howell, Daily, Choi ............................... So it will have some of the best there and more.

**Keithsguy** · 08-20-2004 02:36 PM

There is only one thing I like about VJ - he appears to love the game and the competition and that to me is a true athlete. I respect the guy for going out there every week to win no matter what his status on the tour he is. The one thing that I do not like about this arrangement is people then start to believe the #1 money leader is the best player on the tour.

Originally Posted by ros_bif

The thing i don't like about Singh playing ALL the tournaments is that he plays in some of the tournaments that are near the end of the season, and that as a general rule, the top guys don't show to...

I don't like this, because it's nice to see some of the guys struggling to have a good chance at a prize...these are the tournaments that these guys wait all year for...having someoen like vijay show up prolly stings a little...just my 2 cents

**ros_bif** · 08-20-2004 02:49 PM

i never said not to show up to any of them...it's just that there are alot of late season events where you see a leader board full of new names, and Vijay...a tournament where all the other top players didn't show...then at the end of the day you see him holding a trophy...happened alot last year...he played alot of weak fields.. ipersonally don't respect that, and would, if in his position, step away from those events.

**broken27** · 08-20-2004 03:06 PM

I would have voted for myself, but it wasn't an option (will have to speak to the pollsters about this, as it happens far too often.......

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Doesn't look good for Singh and Els at the moment. I doubt Tiger will win, but he looks like he'll stay atop the ranking for another week.....

Dan

**golfmania** · 08-20-2004 03:06 PM

Originally Posted by ros_bif

i never said not to show up to any of them...it's just that there are alot of late season events where you see a leader board full of new names, and Vijay...a tournament where all the other top players didn't show...then at the end of the day you see him holding a trophy...happened alot last year...he played alot of weak fields.. ipersonally don't respect that, and would, if in his position, step away from those events.

Not to mention the whole asian tour controversy.

**broken27** · 08-20-2004 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by Steve Karam

ros_bif................ good thing there's no cut or we all loose Singh, Els and Mickelson in the fantasy pools.

My lack of focus made me miss my pick changes I wanted to make. As it stands, I have Cink, Haas, and Toms taking care of some business for me, but sadly I have a couple of non-players.... Maybe I'll get lucky for once!

Dan

**broken27** · 08-20-2004 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by ros_bif

i never said not to show up to any of them...it's just that there are alot of late season events where you see a leader board full of new names, and Vijay...a tournament where all the other top players didn't show...then at the end of the day you see him holding a trophy...happened alot last year...he played alot of weak fields.. ipersonally don't respect that, and would, if in his position, step away from those events.

It's professional golf. Shouldn't EVERY tournament have as many of the best players in the world as possible? If you like watching second-tier golf, tune into the Nationwide tour. To me, Vijay is smart for taking the easy millions where he can get them.

I'd like to see the PGA step in and set a minimum for tourneys per season barring injury. If you have the good fortune (and obviously skill) to hold a Tour card, it's kind of pompous not to use it. It'd be like Derek Jeter or Martin Brodeur saying "coach, I think I'll sit this one out. I just don't feel like playing today".

Dan

**Kilroy** · 08-20-2004 03:36 PM

They must play 15 events.

**broken27** · 08-20-2004 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by Dan Kilbank

They must play 15 events.

Well, in my humble opinion, unless that represents 3/4 of the events or more, it's not enough.

Dan

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