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05-26-2010 07:58 AM #1
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X-out on a hole - what to enter for HC purposes?
I was playing in an event at my home course. It was a tournament called the May Monthly.
Long story short, I eventually X'ed myself on a hole taking myself out of the tournament. I presume I still put in a tournament score in the handicap? And just count a double for that X'ed hole?
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05-26-2010 10:10 AM #2
You should put in your ESC max for that hole I believe. This varies depending on your Index.
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05-26-2010 01:47 PM #3
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05-27-2010 07:54 AM #4
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Equitable Stroke Control
Equitable Stroke Control (ESC) is the downward adjustment of individual hole scores for handicap purposes in order to make Handicap Factors more representative of a player's potential scoring ability. ESC sets a maximum number that a player can post on any hole depending on the player's Course Handicap. ESC is used only when a player's actual or most likely score exceeds their maximum number based on the table below but is applied to all scores for handicap purposes, including tournament scores. There is no limit to the number of holes on which a player may adjust their score.
Note: In other countries, the system of ESC may be different than the RCGA system, (i.e., USGA system). When a score is made under a system of ESC different to the RCGA ESC system, that score must be adjusted to the RCGA ESC system before it is entered as an adjusted score under the RCGA Handicap System.
A Handicap Factor determined from scores to which ESC has not been applied may not be termed an RCGA Handicap Factor.
EQUITABLE STROKE CONTROL
Course Handicap
Maximum Number On Any Hole
0 or plus
1 over par
1 through 18
2 over par
19 through 32
3 over par
33 and over
4 over par
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05-31-2010 02:30 PM #5
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I should have said I was familliar with the ESC guidelines, and yes, I'd be a double max for any given hole (11 index).
I figured I was to apply my ESC on that hole (par 4 so a 6). But I just wasn't sure if tournaments are handled differently when they are incomplete.
In fact, being an incomplete hole, do you post your ESC max (double bog), or do I just look at what handicap hole it is and if my HC would have netted me a stroke, then I post a bogey. Sort of like if you played 17 out of 18 holes and ran out of light, you'd post whatever your handicap would dictate on 18. (Stroke hole - post a bogey; non-Stroke hole, post a par)
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05-31-2010 02:49 PM #6
I think you record the par plus your ESC because you did play the hole...you just X'd out.
That is what I have done in the past.
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05-31-2010 03:22 PM #7
In tournament stroke play, if you X-out a hole, you are disqualified... better to swallow your pride and card a double digit score than X-out if you want to place at all.
Wannabe Golf
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05-31-2010 06:15 PM #8
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I did dq myself. I was asking about firstly, if I put in a score at all, and secondly, what score would I enter.
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05-31-2010 09:59 PM #9
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I seem to recall that if you started to play a hole and picked up, you mark your most likely score - so if it was a par 4 and you were 40 yards from the green in 2 you would mark a 5 (pitch on and 2 putts). I think this is to prevent people from artificially increasing their handicaps by entering the ESC score rather than a better score (5 vs 6 in the above example). Likewise if you had stick handled it down the fairway and lay 5 on the same hole and were 40 yards off the green, you would mark 8 and adjust it to 6 for ESC.
Also I thought if you did not actually play a hole (or holes) you record the ESC score for those holes.
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06-01-2010 06:39 AM #10
If you pick up after exceeding esc or if you just exceed esc - record esc.
If you pick up before you reach esc or if you skip a hole, it's par plus any hcp strokes you are entitled to.Life dinnae come wit gimmies so yuv got nae chance o' gitt'n any from me.
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06-06-2010 06:30 PM #11
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Not quite. If you do not complete a hole, you determine your most likely score. ESC is then applied to this score to determine what you will enter for handicap purposes. If you do not play the hole at all, it is entered as par plus any handicap stroke(s) to which you are entitled. Par plus is not a factor for holes which you have partially played.
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06-06-2010 08:20 PM #12
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