which sports debate is the most tiresome?

[nokids]

gretzky vs lemieux
sampras vs federer
ovechkin vs crosby
tiger vs nicklaus
jordan vs bird vs magic vs kobe vs lebron vs shaq vs oscar vs . . ..
pele vs maradonna
does barry bonds deserve an asterix besides his hr record
did the patriots cheat all these years
is wresting fixed?

[Hacker]

I'm going to go with.......

Lucy vs. Charlie Brown

[jeffc]

crosby vs. datsyuk

really, any argument that says one guy from one era is better than one guy from another ear. It's near impossible to compare eras.

[fundonny]

gretzky vs lemieux there is no argument.
Sampras vs federer there is no argument.
Ovechkin vs crosby this is one!
Tiger vs nicklaus this is one!
Jordan vs bird vs magic vs kobe vs lebron vs shaq vs oscar vs . . .. no argument.
Pele vs maradonna does anyone really argue this at all? Soccer doesn't suffer these debates.
Does barry bonds deserve an asterix besides his hr record absolutely! No question he deserves it. It's the hall of fame debate that will rage on.
Did the patriots cheat all these years by league rules, yes. No argument.
Is wresting fixed? LOL

See bold above.

[nokids]

crosby vs. datsyuk

really, any argument that says one guy from one era is better than one guy from another ear. It's near impossible to compare eras.

true. it's like comparing Neo vs Chuck Norris.

[sensfan63]

You can always argue both sides of Gretzky vs. Lemieux (not that I think it's even close) or Jordan vs. Magic (again, not close but some try). The reason you can make arguments is because their careers are over. Nothing more can happen to influence the argument.

To compare Crosby and Ovechkin right now is pointless. Ovie could go on and win three Cups and eight scoring titles, and Crosby could destroy his ACL and never play again. Basically, one would be predicting success with absolutely no formula behind the calculations.

So like I said, pointless.

[Hacker]

OK, you guys say that that it isn't close between Gretzky and Lemieux yet no one said who is better.....I don't think it is close either and for the record I see #99 as the best there was, and ever will be.

[Hacker]

gretzky vs lemieux
sampras vs federer
ovechkin vs crosby
tiger vs nicklaus
jordan vs bird vs magic vs kobe vs lebron vs shaq vs oscar vs . . ..
pele vs maradonna
does barry bonds deserve an asterix besides his hr record
did the patriots cheat all these years
is wresting fixed?

• Gretzky, no contest, no argument
• Federer, no contest, no arguement
• I agree that it is hard to compare across eras but I think that Tiger is better right now compared to a 34 year old Jack
• Jordan is the best that I've ever seen but Wilt the Stilt needs to be in this conversation
• Pele is God, Maradonna is a Saint
• Bonds No asterix - he is the homerun leader in the steroid era
• By the letter of the law the Pats were caught - once
• No, wrestling is not fixed - they freely admit that it is scripted

[Paulio]

With Lemieux and Gretzky, the debate usually starts with a "what if..". If Mario was healthy, he could have been A LOT closer to Wayne's records. I believe Mario had more skill than Gretzky and was much better to watch. I do have to agree that numbers do not lie, however..

[Strangebrew]

true. it's like comparing Neo vs Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris could kick Neo's tail. No argument here.

Terry Sawchuk vs Martin Brodeur?

Betty vs Veronica?

[nokids]

With Lemieux and Gretzky, the debate usually starts with a "what if..". If Mario was healthy, he could have been A LOT closer to Wayne's records. I believe Mario had more skill than Gretzky and was much better to watch. I do have to agree that numbers do not lie, however..

statwise, gretzky was king. lemieux was not too shabby either, and he played in a more 'clutch and grab' era.

[jeffc]

true. it's like comparing Neo vs Chuck Norris.

datsyuk always reminded me of keannu reeves

[jonf]

Agree with Donny...there isn't really a Pele vs Maradona debate for soccer. There's about 10 other names you can easily ad to the list of potentially the best ever, but for the most part, nobody seems to really care. There are so many people that play the game that there's a new player every year that takes the world by storm and puts himself among the greats, only to be dethroned in a year or two.

[fundonny]

I think soccer fans are just more appreciative of the moment and less judgemental of the past vs. present.

Gretzky is by far and away the best ever. Lemieux, healthy, couldn't touch Gretz's single season records. Sheesh, can't believe anyone can see it any other way.

[sensfan63]

Gretzky is by far and away the best ever. Lemieux, healthy, couldn't touch Gretz's single season records. Sheesh, can't believe anyone can see it any other way.

absolutely

[Hacker]

Gretzky is by far and away the best ever. Lemieux, healthy, couldn't touch Gretz's single season records. Sheesh, can't believe anyone can see it any other way.

[Hacker]

Agree with Donny...there isn't really a Pele vs Maradona debate for soccer. There's about 10 other names you can easily ad to the list of potentially the best ever, but for the most part, nobody seems to really care. There are so many people that play the game that there's a new player every year that takes the world by storm and puts himself among the greats, only to be dethroned in a year or two.

What? No Wrestling comment in this thread??

....................just razzing ya Jon

[jeffc]

i'd have to go with Indio vs. Hacker

[goochy]

Personally I find the Fisher vs Karpov vs Kasparov debate the most tiring....people just go on and on about it

[fundonny]

i'd have to go with Indio vs. Hacker

[nokids]

pepsi vs coke. the debate rages on.

[stevek]

Can't believe no one has said....

CG vs EG vs RM

[Hacker]

i'd have to go with Indio vs. Hacker

Hey Bob,

they think we are athletes

[Sakuraba]

what about the timeless Jordan vs Gretzky vs Tiger vs Federer?... to me, this one is also no contest...

[Strangebrew]

what about the timeless Jordan vs Gretzky vs Tiger vs Federer?... to me, this one is also no contest...

now this could start an argument... for me it's easy - Federer.

[Sakuraba]

I always try & make the following argument, which tends to anger many out there. More people play basketball globally than hockey, golf and tennis combined. That's why I say Jordan is the greatest. He had to be greater than millions (maybe hundreds of millions) more players than Federer did. You will notice I kept soccer out of it.

[3Jack]

If we take in to consideration that early in his career Jack played with an inferior ball that would go out of round extremely quickly, many of those second place finishes in Majors would be wins... hmm.

[Hacker]

If we take in to consideration that early in his career Jack played with an inferior ball that would go out of round extremely quickly, many of those second place finishes in Majors would be wins... hmm.

One slight flaw in that logic.......all of Jacks FCs were using the same technology in their balsl. It's not like Jack was playing against guys who were using Pro V1s.

[Indio]

Hey Bob,

they think we are athletes

There is an ignore option if we have become 'tiresome'

[Mattchew]

Tiger VS Jack..................

to me this argument is always between the young and older.....people who grew up with Jack VS people in the Tiger era.....they both have done amazing things durring the time they played!


but Tiger is better!!!!!!!!!!