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06-09-2009 10:08 AM #1
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Why use Pro V1 balls???
I can't believe how many guys I see using ProV1 balls. And these golfers range from low to high handicaps...
I am curious, why do so many people use a ball that is designed for "pro" swingspeeds? Unless you are swinging a driver over 115 mph, you are not benefiting from the ProV1 technology.
I am sure there are a number of people here who have the clubspeed, but the majority do not, so I am wondering, why waste the money on a ball that does not suit your game and swingspeed at all...
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06-09-2009 10:22 AM #2
I am one of the people that does not have the swing speed for Pro-v's and have used them on occasion to have fun hitting into greens.Last year i found out that its not for me so i switched to a lower comp.ball to get the xtra distance that i need off the tee.I miss having my ball check up for sure but i dont miss the lost yardage.They are expensive when you buy new but if you have the game for them,there is no better ball to play.But you are right,a lot of people do not have the speed to take advantage of the benefits of this ball.
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06-09-2009 10:31 AM #3
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I use the ProV a lot and find they are great around the green and I sure don't lose distance from most other balls. If you're losing a few balls a round it's probably not the ball for you but I find that they will last a few rounds before getting too scuffed up. If I play some of the cheaper balls after 4 or 5 holes they're usually not worth hitting again. I like the Bridgestone ball also but have found the B330's scuff up way quicker than the E6+. I also find a lot of ProV's that I'll end up throwing into the bag so don't mind losing the odd one or two. Just can't beat the way they work around the green. Now all I need to do is get better at putting them where I want.
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06-09-2009 11:03 AM #4
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06-09-2009 11:41 AM #5
I've never seen it stated anywhere that the Pro V1 is designed for 115mph swing speeds. What's your source?
For me, using the Pro V1 has next to nothing to do with how far it goes. It's all about the feel around the greens. I don't need a 'pro' swing speed to get the benefit.
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06-09-2009 01:07 PM #6
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the distance goes similar for me with Pro V1 and NXT, or DT solo... for me, Pro V1 does roll that much compared to NXT on the green with my pitching or iron shots, so more chance to score better for me.
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06-09-2009 01:22 PM #7
I have come to know how my PROV1 will react on the green. Anything harder and I can't control the spin.... and guess what, I don't have a 115mph swing speed.
I am curiuos though as to how a PROV1 only benefits someone with a 115mph swing speed. I have never seen any pro generating 115mph swing speed when wedging a shot into the green.Some people are like Slinkies... they're really good for nothing, ... but they still bring a smile to your face when you push them down a flight of stairs...
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06-09-2009 01:47 PM #8
http://thesandtrap.com/bag_drop/titleist_launches_new_pro_v1_and_pro_v1x_golf_ball s
Doesn't sound like swing speed is much of a factor.
Personally, I don't have the consistent game or the budget to justify buying shiny new ones, but I enjoy playing "mint"/"AAA" ProV1s purchased used, especially on par 3s. More of a psychological boost than anything for me. I feel like such a champ if I throw a dart with one.
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06-09-2009 02:43 PM #9
pretty sure the ProV1 is for under 100 mph and the ProV1X is for over 100mph. You dont need to be that great to use one, just makes more sense for your wallet if you are losing 3+ balls a round.
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06-09-2009 07:08 PM #10
The problem with old farts like me is i cant compress it with a speed of 85 mph.Actually i have compared with Dt Solo and lost about 10 yards or so off the drive.You dont need a swing speed of 115 mph but over 100 is good.I find that when your swing is off,they tend to exagarate your mistakes a bit more.
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06-09-2009 08:11 PM #11
I spent a lot of time at the end of last year trying to find a ball that works for me. The ProV1's are fantastic for sure around the green but I couldn't get it going as far of the tee. However, the real clincher for me was simply cost. I'm a beginner, and I'm not wealthy. I would rather play a decent cheaper ball and spend my money on lessons and playing more than $4 a ball when I could easily lose 3 a round
As I get better I'm sure I will get more out of a better ball but for now I don't believe playing a ProV1 would benefit my game and it would cost my wallet.
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07-19-2009 10:03 AM #12
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The Pro V is pretty much a standard in my bag. Every year I try different balls but I keeep on coming back to it, it just seems to fly straigher and bites more around the green. Having said this, I don't like it under 16 degrees as the shell gets too hard to work properly.
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07-19-2009 10:56 AM #13
You can get a dozen pro v1's for 15$ at Walmart.
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07-19-2009 02:45 PM #14
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I assume its the cheaper price of last year ProVs but I've noticed over the past month that I find a lot more of them in the bush. It feels like every time I go in there I'm pulling one out. I think I have 8-10 of them in my bag now.
So I guess its the price that is getting some of the higher handicapers to play them now. I do enjoy playing them when I find them, I just have to remember that I'm hitting them when I'm hitting my approach shots.
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07-20-2009 06:54 AM #15
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07-20-2009 06:54 AM #16
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07-20-2009 07:41 AM #17
Not new but the are absolutely fine and play just like a new one does.
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07-20-2009 07:49 AM #18
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Last years ProV is available for $39.95 at Golf Town. The balls are new. I have heard the reason for the price drop is Callaway has taken legal action against Titlest over patent infringement with Top Flite forcing Titlest into selling these puppies really cheap.
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07-20-2009 03:09 PM #19
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I think Callaway had been fighting Acushnet over some kind of patent against the ProV1 for a few years now. I had heard about 2 years ago that they had won the case, but Titleist was allowed to sell the remainder of it's inventory. Maybe that's the reason for this 'new' ProV1, but I'm just speculating.
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07-20-2009 08:37 PM #20
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not so
Almost all proline balls are the same compression. 90-100. As for the difference betwen ProV1 and the ProV1X it is in the spin off the club head. The X's spin less. Better for driver distance and not so good for approaches. Doesn't Not matter to me as the Nike One Tour is a better all around ball anyway and MUCH cheaper. IMHO
Nike has the same lineup. The One Tour spins more than the One Tour D's and the Vapors spin even less. Kinda like the ProV's then the X's then the Titleist Rocks!
Of course the hardest one of all it the Top Rock(Flite)!
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07-20-2009 10:00 PM #21
why use Pro V 1's
I think the Saint said it.
You know what to expect with the ball. Its great on approach shots and around the greens. That is where you score right.
To me the Pro V1 is worth 1 less stroke per round.
Agree to some comments that if you lose alot of balls then its not worth it.
I Don't lose many and I'm at the stage if life that if I want to play a premium ball then i'm good with it.
As for the best ball, lets all face it the Pro V1 is better than all the rest. If a Pro was not payed to play a certian brand of ball what would they choose... Pro V1 of course.
Its just a matter of predictability, just like Dynamic Golds in irons, not sexy, not expensive but hey they work and just as good as some of the new sexier companies.
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07-21-2009 12:10 AM #22
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opinion or Fact?
Sparkplug.... Please state your opinions as such. I have another one. At 53 years old Am playing the best golf of my 42 years in golf. I played ProV's when they were a heck of a lot better than they are now. I have given Prov's the chance every spring since the Nike One series started and they can't hold a Birthday candle to the Nike ball. IMO!!
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07-21-2009 01:17 AM #23
hard to argue with the fact that the best player in the world plays a Nike.
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07-21-2009 06:44 AM #24
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07-21-2009 07:31 AM #25
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Perhaps when the Pro V1 first came out it was, but there are several other companies that make comparable if not better balls. Do you really think a tour player would sacrifice his chances of winning tournaments for less money than one tour win if Titleists were clearly that much better? Tiger Woods is way too competitive to play balls that would hurt his chances of reaching his goal of 18 majors, but perhaps you know more about golf balls than he does.
Right now Srixon, Nike, Callaway, Bridgestone and TaylorMade all make balls that compete well with Titleist - if you don't believe me you should try them out. I'm currently playing and loving the Srixon Z-Star - as their slogan says: "Play a Better Ball"
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07-21-2009 08:28 AM #26
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Like he needs the money?!
Yes he plays it but his contract states that he is NOT required to play any equipment of any brand. He can play what he wants to play!!! Hence, he does not use Nike putters!!! All Tiger is after is major victories. He will play what he feels will give him the best chance to win them.
This would tell anyone who uses his head that he believes it is the best ball for him.
Ultimately that all any of us can do. Does me NO good to use a ball that I do not feel comfortable with just because more touring pros use it. It is all a matter of feel. My only point is NO ONE can tell me what the BEST ball is for me only for them self.
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07-21-2009 08:43 AM #27
If there was a noticeable difference, he would play a ProV1 too. He wants to win. If you're a cynic and think he's in it for the money, then he would STILL play a ProV1 because a better ball means more victories means more money and more endorsements. If ProVs were as good as they are supposed to be, he would be using one. Truth is, Nike and TM have caught up in terms of ball technology, just not reputation.
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07-21-2009 09:55 AM #28
there are lots of good balls out there that aren't ProV1's and in my experience they all are more or less the same for the average player. ProV1, TM TP, Nike One, Callway Tour I, etc. I'll take any of those any day. I'd even add TopFlite D2 Feel to that list.
I got a fever. And the only prescription is more golf equipment.
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07-21-2009 10:18 AM #29
Besides, if Tiger was only in it for the money he'd have retired a long time ago. The man is obviously not motivated by money.
www.chapeaunoirgolf.com
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07-21-2009 10:37 AM #30
I was going through my Golf Canada magazine yesterday and they had a Titleist add with the following interesting ProV1 stats. I don't have the numbers exactly memorized, but these are close enough. They are worldwide numbers.
Number of professionals playing Titleist: 10,000 +
Number of professionals playing other balls: ~1700
Number of wins by Titleist: ~73
Number of wins by others: ~17
Doing some math, the win percentage for the other balls as a percentage of people playing them is actually HIGHER than the Titleist balls. Almost 37% higher in fact!
So, if you want to win, you should really be playing something other than Titleist. Your odds are 37% better.Not fat anymore. Need to get better at golf now!
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