Ben hogan steel shafts #4

[starbuck]

I am considering purchasing a set of hogans and I'm curious as to exactly how the #4 steel shafts compare in stiffness to S300 or 6.0 rifles. I currently play TM 300 with 5.5 flighted riffles and was thinking of changing. Most comments I have heard is that Hogan stiff is more like a firm. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Love the TM's just feel like a change I play to a 6.

[1972Apex]

I've had Hogans in all of those flexes.
The Apex 4 is the softest of the 3, maybe between firm and stiff, similar to the DGS300 but a hair softer and with more of a mid flex point. Actually a pretty nice shaft. I'm a DGS300/400 guy and I'm pretty comfortable with the Apex 4.
The DGS300 in the Hogans plays just like DGS300 should. It is a high kickpoint, tip stiff shaft with a slightly harsher feel than the Apex or Rifle shafts. If you like DGS300, you'll like the DGS300s in the Hogans.
The Rifle 6.0 shafts I had in my Apex Pluses were notably stiffer than the DGS300 or Apex 4 shafts -- just as stiff as Apex 5 IMHO. Nice feeling shaft in a 5.5 but I found the Hogan 6.0 version a bit harsh, perhaps more due to the stiffness than the characteristics of the shaft. You really had to eat your Wheaties before playing the Hogan 6.0s.

[BC MIST]

I've had Hogans in all of those flexes.
The Apex 4 is the softest of the 3, maybe between firm and stiff, similar to the DGS300 but a hair softer and with more of a mid flex point. Actually a pretty nice shaft. I'm a DGS300/400 guy and I'm pretty comfortable with the Apex 4.
The DGS300 in the Hogans plays just like DGS300 should. It is a low kickpoint stiff shaft with a slightly harsher feel than the Apex or Rifle shafts. If you like DGS300, you'll like the DGS300s in the Hogans.
The Rifle 6.0 shafts I had in my Apex Pluses were notably stiffer than the DGS300 or Apex 4 shafts -- just as stiff as Apex 5 IMHO. Nice feeling shaft in a 5.5 but I found the Hogan 6.0 version a bit harsh, perhaps more due to the stiffness than the characteristics of the shaft. You really had to eat your Wheaties before playing the Hogan 6.0s.

I find the bold comment interesting. All the Dynamic Gold shafts are heavy, butt stiff and have a high bend point, which encourages a lower trajectory. A mid bend point shaft would be the Dynamic Gold LITE, whle the Dynalite Golds have a low bend point and encourage a high ball trajectory.

What I don't understand is how a high bend point shaft can have a low kick point. While the two terms have a slightly different meaning, they are closely related.

[1972Apex]

You are absolutely correct. I meant high kickpoint, tip stiff and must have accidentally typed in low instead of high. Thanks for the proofread. I have edited my post.

I find the bold comment interesting. All the Dynamic Gold shafts are heavy, butt stiff and have a high bend point, which encourages a lower trajectory. A mid bend point shaft would be the Dynamic Gold LITE, whle the Dynalite Golds have a low bend point and encourage a high ball trajectory.

What I don't understand is how a high bend point shaft can have a low kick point. While the two terms have a slightly different meaning, they are closely related.