Is he right or is he a chicken

**sillywilly** · 07-20-2009 01:16 PM

A friend of mine has to give me 4 strokes in our next match but won't give me strokes if we play at irish hills because he says its my HOME COURSE. I'm a corp golf member so I guess tech I'm a member everywhere lol. Anyway, he says he won't give me strokes there because I played my best round of the year there :S I have played that course more than any other this year... about 10 of my 50 rounds. Does he have a point or is he being a girlie man?

**jvincent** · 07-20-2009 01:17 PM

He's being a girlie.

**sillywilly** · 07-20-2009 01:20 PM

i don't want name names (adam781) but i agree with Jvin.. he is being a girlie

**John** · 07-20-2009 01:24 PM

He's a susie.

**Kilroy** · 07-20-2009 01:31 PM

If he won't play a handicap game with the proper handicap, just play for fun.

**sillywilly** · 07-20-2009 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Kilroy

If he won't play a handicap game with the proper handicap, just play for fun.

fun?? whats that?

**adam** · 07-20-2009 01:49 PM

What the sandbagger, not naming any names (sillywilly), is leaving out is that his index is currently 18.2 but earlier this year he shot a 76 at this course. Why am I giving him any strokes at any courses?

**Kilroy** · 07-20-2009 01:55 PM

One good round does not invalidate someoe's handicap.

"Adjusting" because of a good round has already been handled by the handicapping system. Either use the system or don't. If you want to play straight up do so.

**Kilroy** · 07-20-2009 01:56 PM

Besides he can be easily beaten even with strokes. I have done it a few times.

**1972Apex** · 07-20-2009 01:58 PM

The only girlies are those who require strokes

Play it straight up and earn your victory... particularly on your home course...
If you MUST have strokes, at least play on a neutral course.

**Kilroy** · 07-20-2009 02:01 PM

adam, what's your 'cap?

**sillywilly** · 07-20-2009 02:05 PM

adam is a 14.8
depe is an 18.2

I've had 3-5 really bad rounds where I didn't even bother finishing the round because it was going to be close to my max anyway. They knocked off some good rounds and mad some bad ones count. Trying something difference, trying to get more con. with my swing so the bad holes aren't horrible like they usually are. It slowly coming around. I feel a good round coming soon

as for sandbagging, , you've seen my play the last two rounds. If I told you I was a 25 capper you would probably believe me

**sillywilly** · 07-20-2009 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by 1972Apex

The only girlies are those who require strokes

Play it straight up and earn your victory... particularly on your home course...
If you MUST have strokes, at least play on a neutral course.

irish hills is no ones home course, we are both discount golf members. Strokes are used to even the playing field. If someone is better than you, how can you beat them without strokes?

**adam** · 07-20-2009 02:07 PM

14.8 so silly is only supposed to get 3 at the course.

**adam** · 07-20-2009 02:10 PM

Nice of you to finally admit who the better golfer is

But that is just overall, different courses play to different players and I'm not playing Irish Hills for our matches. Much like I wouldn't suggest you playing me at the course I worked at throughout high school, you wouldn't stand a chance.

**1972Apex** · 07-20-2009 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by sillywilly

irish hills is no ones home course, we are both discount golf members. Strokes are used to even the playing field. If someone is better than you, how can you beat them without strokes?

My brother's handicap is 3-4 strokes higher than mine and he kicks my butt regularly. Last year his handicap was 9 strokes higher than mine and he never once asked for a single stroke. Practice and determination will get you a lot further in any sport than asking for mercy.
I don't care what anyone's handicap is, I never ask for strokes.
Of course if this is league play and those are the rules, then he should give you the strokes. However you should both agree on a neutral course.

**adam** · 07-20-2009 02:18 PM

No leagues involved. First to 10 wins gets to talk smack forever.

**Kilroy** · 07-20-2009 02:20 PM

You are a 14.8 and you sound knowlegeble enough to understand the relationship between playing ability and local knowlege. Playing a 'home' course all the time lowers your cap by virtue of the 'better' scores played there. He'd actually be at a DISadvantage playing you elsewhere if your game is one based on travelling around each time you play.

**adam** · 07-20-2009 02:27 PM

If Irish Hills was his home course and he played there all season his cap would be a lot lower than it is now for sure.

**Kilroy** · 07-20-2009 02:30 PM

Well if he doesn't play there enough for it to affect his cap, what are you concerned about?

**adam** · 07-20-2009 02:35 PM

Not worried about his cap, just the course. Silly plays nothing like an 18.2 at Irish Hills.

**LobWedge** · 07-20-2009 02:38 PM

Ach! Golf is golf. You still need to hit the shots and make the putts, regardless of where you play. We're talking Irish Hills, right? That course is flatter than a pancake stuck to an elephant's foot. Who cares who plays where? Suck it up and play.

**1972Apex** · 07-20-2009 02:39 PM

After further review.... if you guys have been playing with handicaps for bragging rights all summer, then you should play him at least once on his favorite course with the same strokes as anywhere else.
Look at it this way. You're supposed to lose, so if he beats you it's no biggie. If on the other hand you win there you can rub it in his face forever

**adam** · 07-20-2009 02:45 PM

Oh something I forgot to mention: we have already played a round at Irish Hills earlier this year when our caps were even and he won.

**Kilroy** · 07-20-2009 02:50 PM

Really? He never wins.

**1972Apex** · 07-20-2009 03:00 PM

Originally Posted by adam781

Oh something I forgot to mention: we have already played a round at Irish Hills earlier this year when our caps were even and he won.

I'd heard a rumour that Hell had frozen over one day earlier this year... that must have been the day

**1972Apex** · 07-20-2009 03:02 PM

So you guys started this earlier this year when your caps were even, and now that his game has slipped and/or you've improved he wants strokes? Pathetic... really pathetic....

**sillywilly** · 07-20-2009 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by 1972Apex

So you guys started this earlier this year when your caps were even, and now that his game has slipped and/or you've improved he wants strokes? Pathetic... really pathetic....

actually we started when my cap was lower and adam was getting strokes... then it went to even.. and now he owes me strokes.

Reid, if you don't understand how match play with strokes work, just get out of the thread. We've heard your opinion and repeating it over and over again makes you looks silly

**1972Apex** · 07-20-2009 03:47 PM

Sorry Willy. You asked for opinions. I didn't realize that you only wanted ones which supported your point of view. Keep working on getting that handicap down LOL!
BTW, as long as you are a member of this site no one else will ever look silly...

**sillywilly** · 07-20-2009 04:25 PM

I asked for an opinion, not the same opinion repeated 10 times.

i am working on getting the cap down, thats brilliant advice

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