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    Subject:: Ford and GM's contributions 9/11






    Subject:: Ford and GM's contributions 9/11





    An interesting commentary



    'CNN Headline News did a short news listing regarding
    Ford and GM's contributions to the relief and
    recovery efforts in New York and Washington .

    The findings are as follows.....

    1. Ford- $1 million to American Red Cross matching employee
    contributions of the same number plus 10 Excursions
    to NY Fire Dept. The company also offered ER response
    team services and office space to displaced government
    employees.

    2. GM- $1 million to American Red Cross matching employee
    contributions of the same number and a fleet of vans,
    suv's, and trucks.


    3. Daimler Chrysler- $10 million to support of the children
    and victims of the Sept. 11 attack.

    4. Harley Davidson mot orcycles- $1 million and 30 new
    motorcycles to the New York Police Dept.

    5. Volkswagen-Employees and management created a Sept 11
    Foundation, funded initial with $2 million, for the
    assistance of the children and victims of the WTC.

    6. Hyundai- $300,000 to the American Red Cross.

    7. Audi-Nothing.

    8. BMW-Nothing.

    9. Daewoo- Nothing.

    10. Fiat-Nothing.

    11. Honda- Nothing despite boasting of second best sales
    month ever in August 2001

    12. Isuzu- Nothing.

    13. Mitsubishi-Nothing.

    14. Nissan-Nothing.

    15. Porsche-Nothing.20 Press release with condolences via
    the Porsche website.

    16. Subaru- Nothing.

    17. Suzuki- Nothing.

    18. Toyota-Nothing despite claims of high sales in July and
    August 2001. Condolences posted on the website

    Whenever the time may be for you to purchase or lease a
    new vehicle, keep this information in mind. You might
    want to give more consideration to a car manufactured by an
    American-owned and / or American based company.

    Apart from Hyundai and Volkswagen, the foreign car
    companies contributed nothing at all to the citizens of the
    United States .

    It's OK for these companies to take money out of this
    country, but
    it is apparently not acceptable to return some in a
    time of crisis. I
    believe we should not forget things like this.









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    Seriously, this is the information I should be considering when I go to make my next vehicle purchase? I should ignore all the specs, and prices, and safety ratings and just go ahead and choose a vehicle because a company, Ford for example, with a Revenue of $172 billion (2007) made a $1 million contribution, plus a few cars? That's equal to someone with an income of $50,000, donating $0.30.

    Not to be too cynical, but I believe that's the exact reason why companies have PR budgets. I can see how this might have an impact on the very patriotic, but I just see it as money coming from the same budget that sponsors golf tournaments.
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    Chrysler in 2001 was German owned and operated, and still gave $10M versus the $1M that GM and Ford each gave.

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    I totally agree with this opinion.

    Just because a mega company donated a measly amount of money in order to reap the publicity benefits, does not make me discount the quality of their product when purchasing.

    Quote Originally Posted by hoolio View Post
    Seriously, this is the information I should be considering when I go to make my next vehicle purchase? I should ignore all the specs, and prices, and safety ratings and just go ahead and choose a vehicle because a company, Ford for example, with a Revenue of $172 billion (2007) made a $1 million contribution, plus a few cars? That's equal to someone with an income of $50,000, donating $0.30.

    Not to be too cynical, but I believe that's the exact reason why companies have PR budgets. I can see how this might have an impact on the very patriotic, but I just see it as money coming from the same budget that sponsors golf tournaments.
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    Ford and GM ONLY give $1M and a few cars and they expect that to count for something?? Give me a freaking Break.

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    Obviously, those foreign companies hate America, and should be shunned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skiddlydidly View Post
    Obviously, those foreign companies hate America, and should be shunned.
    I'm just wondering whether GM and Ford donated any money for the terrorist attacks that took place in London, Madrid and Bali???

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    Quote Originally Posted by big easy View Post
    I'm just wondering whether GM and Ford donated any money for the terrorist attacks that took place in London, Madrid and Bali???
    Good Question............

    But I wouldn't be surprized if terrorists preferred to use either Fords or GMs when making their car bombs

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    Just an urban legend, check out http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cars.asp or you can search at http://urbanlegends.about.com.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfbum View Post


    It's OK for these companies to take money out of this
    country, but
    it is apparently not acceptable to return some in a
    time of crisis. I
    believe we should not forget things like this.




    Donating to charity is not a contest nor is it an obligation - and that is especially true if you choose to single out any one charitable cause over others.

    I could pick ANY worthy charitable cause and draw up my own "leaderboard" - and there would be many companies on mine that are not on yours and vice-versa. What does that prove? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

    These companies should be thanked for their generosity and support. If they support a cause that is close to YOUR heart, then by all means feel free to support them for it. But there is no need to slam others because they chose to support some other cause, or pledged less money to YOUR cause than others. There is not enough money in the world to satisfy EVERY need.

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    Slightly biased information concerning the former employer of the original poster!

    This would not influence my decision at all. If Honda supplies a less expensive, similar quality car to what GM and Ford are offering in the same class, I'll buy the Honda. Chances are, the gas on a Hyundai/Honda, etc is going to be less expensive as well to factor in.

    For that matter, the thought of "what have you done for me lately" comes to mind when presented with 7 year old "victories" on the PR front. There are still gaping holes in the ground, are the payments still coming? Combined in the last 7 years, they have probably made over a trillion dollars, and yet, this is still being dredged up?

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