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09-20-2008 09:00 AM #1
Cart Path and OB
gbower's ball lies on the right side of a cart path. There is OB less than a yard from the path on the right. It is impossible to take full relief from the cart path on the right hand side and remain in bounds.
What are his options?
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09-20-2008 09:06 AM #2
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That's my normal place to hit the ball these days. I know how I've been playing it.
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09-20-2008 09:09 AM #3
Play it where it lies?
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09-20-2008 10:39 AM #4
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09-20-2008 02:16 PM #5
I believe he can take relief between the cart path and bunker, no closer to the hole, as his NPR. He may end up with an unfavourable stance with his feet in the bunker though.
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09-20-2008 02:47 PM #6
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Is the path an integral part of the course ?
Foddz , you dont get to take somewhere as your "npr" ....unless by some strange fluke " which does happen" there are more one npr...its normally his npr , or its not
If his npr is beside the bunker then yes , he can straddle or stand in the bunker to play his next shot
We assume Gbower is right handed ? .........if he is lefthanded , or the scale of the diagram is bad "either the ball is huge or that bunker is tiny" and the path is quite wide
Then his npr is quite possibly on the strip between the path and OOB
Remember , you can stand OOB to play a ball that is inbounds
Another option is to take an unplayable
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09-20-2008 03:00 PM #7
The ball is large just to make it visible. It is intended to show that there is no doubt the ball is well to the right of center.
Since there is no NPR to the right (OB) His NPR would be to the left of the path.
The point was to show that he doesn't have to play as it lies in this case. He can drop on the left. If it were not for the OB he'd not be allowed to drop on the left of the path.Life dinnae come wit gimmies so yuv got nae chance o' gitt'n any from me.
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09-20-2008 03:25 PM #8
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My bad , didnt take in the OP's statement about being impossible to take full relief on the right of the path .....tho it suprises me ....you dont need much of a strip there to have your npr on the right , not with the path on that angle and a chipshot being played
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09-20-2008 03:31 PM #9
If you are right handed (my ommission) one yard would not likely be enough. This wasn't intened to be a study in micromeasurement. I figured "imossible to take full relief" would cover that.
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09-20-2008 09:27 PM #10
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Your quite right , the statement covered it ...
But IMO , with that aside , the angle of the path , and intended line of play , 24 inches would be plenty for a chip , and 14 inches for a flop shot
Remember , the NPR only needs the point to be in bounds and feet off the path
It doesnt mean you have to have both feet standing in bounds , nor does it mean you have to have a clear swing
Or do I have the rule all botched up
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09-21-2008 05:42 AM #1124 inches would be plenty for a chip , and 14 inches for a flop shot
You must be a very small person. There is no way I could do that.
Debating why it was impossible to play the shot on the right was not at all the point here.Life dinnae come wit gimmies so yuv got nae chance o' gitt'n any from me.
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09-21-2008 11:06 AM #12
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Is this not "hyperthetical" ? its not about winning or losing , the entire point of this forum is to learn is it not ?
.....when finding a NPR , the rules do not require you to have both feet in bounds .....my height "while short lol" doesnt really matter ....the shot Id play is what is key , along with direction
If you imagine the front of the tee block as the edge of the path , and you want to hit driver down the middle of the fairway ....how deep does the tee block need to be so as the swing will not be interfered with by the path ? so the stance wont be on the path ? and the ball wont be on the path ?
If the teeblock was a foot deep , my NPR would be on the teeblock ?
Ive already said I agree with answer to the original post , I totally missed the point where you stated there was no possible NPR on the right ....Im simply expanding the thread so as to learn more , or hopefully others might learn....I could be totally wrong in my interpretation of the rule ...but will never know unless I explore the issue
If the thread is left to die after the initial answer is found then surely we have all sold ourselves short
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