Big Johnny's Two Man Scramble!!

[Sakuraba]

But seeing as its a 2 man scramble, there can't be any blatant cheating, you'll be playing in a 4some with another competing team. The pirze of $170 divided in 2 will barely cover the costs for the winning team. I know if I win, I'm buying a round for as many as I can with my %50.

[Sakuraba]

aarg! Geoff, it looks like I cannot make it. sincere apologies. glad there are lots of replacements, again, sorry.

[rezadue]

In that case, can I be your friend? Good friend? I like Corona, but am not picky.

But seeing as its a 2 man scramble, there can't be any blatant cheating, you'll be playing in a 4some with another competing team. The pirze of $170 divided in 2 will barely cover the costs for the winning team. I know if I win, I'm buying a round for as many as I can with my %50.

[leftylucas]

Maybe we should take some of the $10 registration money and have CTP's and longest drive prizes too? Spread the money around a bit more?

I agree for CTP but not the longest drive. Many of us will never have a chance of winning that (myself included, I am not going to win with a booming 230 yarder) and I think if some players want an LD prize that only those players who would like to participate on that hole put out seperate money, none of the pooled money should go for that. My 2 cents anyways.

[BigFlopper]

If the organizer thinks a CtP and LD prize is alright, then I'm in. What's it going to add, an extra dollar or two, who cares.

[Indio]

aarg! Geoff, it looks like I cannot make it. sincere apologies. glad there are lots of replacements, again, sorry.

I guess you heard you were going to be paired up with me

[leftylucas]

If the organizer thinks a CtP and LD prize is alright, then I'm in. What's it going to add, an extra dollar or two, who cares.

Its not really the money, I think in a scramble prizes should be available to every player, every player can win using thier Hc index, every player can probaly have a good chance to get a CTP but not every player is a long driver so in fact the shorter hitters are subsidizing the longer hitters LD prize.

[Marcos]

Geoff,you pick whatever you want to do .Its good enough of you to organise this so less complicted for you is good for me.

[BigFlopper]

Geoff,you pick whatever you want to do .Its good enough of you to organise this so less complicted for you is good for me.

Exactly.

[Big Johnny69]

The cash prize was just an incentive for players. Just gives the day a little meaning. And like some said, you're playing with another team, so there shouldn't be any cheating. And just to make sure, teams will be switching cards before they tee off. And this is the reason why I'll never do a 4-man OG scramble, at least not for cash anyways.

So here's what I'll do. I'm not doing a long drive or longest putt prize. I can do CTPs. There is 4 par 3s at Copperdale. So how about the $8 from each players goes into the prize pool and $2 from each player goes into the CTP pool? If that's the case, please bring change with you the day of, will make it much easier for me.

These will be the only changes I'm willing to make. I've received many PMs stating to leave the event as is. But I'd like to try to please the majority, so I'm willing to offer up the above stated idea. And I don't mean to sound rude, but if this format doesn't please you, you can always step aside. There are people waiting in the wings. I'm just trying to organize a fun outing for forum members. And to be honest, trying to please "everyone" is one of the reasons I don't plan too many of these anymore. Indio (Bob) knows where I'm coming from on this.

So I hope this is satisfactory for the majority. Teams will be posted once I get BigFlopper's index.

[Sakuraba]

I guess you heard you were going to be paired up with me

Bob, we would have dominated this event.
I'm not %100 out, but I feel I have to give up the spot to someone on the waiting list, as it looks like I'm 95% out.

[Big Johnny69]

Bob, we would have dominated this event.
I'm not %100 out, but I feel I have to give up the spot to someone on the waiting list, as it looks like I'm 95% out.

BTW, you guys weren't paired together.

[justsomeguy]

The cash prize was just an incentive for players. Just gives the day a little meaning. And like some said, you're playing with another team, so there shouldn't be any cheating. And just to make sure, teams will be switching cards before they tee off. And this is the reason why I'll never do a 4-man OG scramble, at least not for cash anyways.

Two-man teams keeping each others' scores is definitely the way to go. I know we all want to believe that "it can't happen here", but...

So here's what I'll do. I'm not doing a long drive or longest putt prize. I can do CTPs. There is 4 par 3s at Copperdale. So how about the $8 from each players goes into the prize pool and $2 from each player goes into the CTP pool? If that's the case, please bring change with you the day of, will make it much easier for me.

I think that's a great idea, Geoff. That should ensure that more people go home happy!

[leftylucas]

Sounds great

[Indio]

Damn you gotta love it when Geoff gets forcefull

You da man Johnston and what ever you decide is fine by me!

[Big Johnny69]

I've got BigFlopper's index. We are good to go. Any future changes, I'll post and make adjustments accordingly.

So the format I used was to separate all the players with the 16 lowest caps in one pool and the rest in another pool. I drew names randomly, so there shouldn't be any issues. I then took both players indexes, that they supplied me with, and added them together. If the team cap was .1-.5 I rounded down, .6-.9 I rounded up.

Lowest team was a 21, so everyone's strokes allotted will be played off of this. I have grouped caps into threes (21-23 and so on), where strokes will be given out accordingly as the team cap increases. The list below will be the pairings, team cap, and strokes allowed in brackets.

So without further ado:

1) Lance LePage & bobjones59 21 (0)
2) jvincent & rancherJ 21 (0)
3) Geoff Johnston & rezadue 23 (0)
4) LBH & fundonny 25 (1)
5) dwalker & payne4ever 26 (1)
6) LobWedge & irish one 27 (2)
7) Fallys0820 & Hacker 27 (2)
8) Mattchew & leftylucas 27 (2)
9) Marcos & OutOfTheRough 28 (2)
10) Andy4Par & psniddy 29 (2)
11) BigFlopper & mcgoo 30 (3)
12) Wilster & dreadedsnowman 30 (3)
13) rmisterr & spackler 32 (3)
14) Indio & XTOUR 32 (3)
15) Paulio & AndrewMGA 33 (4)
16) BogeyGolf & DenisO 38 (5)

The game is afoot, let's see who has the best chemistry! Have fun everyone.

[Big Johnny69]

Wow, with all the looks, not one comment. So either everyone is happy with their team....or everyone is in shock and hates their team. Hmmmmm, wonder which one it is.

[XTOUR]

Wooo...hooo.....I got the shark!!

Scott

[BogeyGolf]

I am just suprised I am the one with the lower handicap in my pairing...yikes...

the sad part is that my partner, justsomeguy has been playing on the NCGT this year with me, and I don't think I know who he is...

[Big Johnny69]

I am just suprised I am the one with the lower handicap in my pairing...yikes...

The halfway point was 13.8. And it's rather ironic that those two guys got paired together.

Like any event, there's always going to be a large differential in indexes. We use this method at our course for handicapped events, and it seems to work out just fine. No complaints.

I just didn't think it would be fair to pair the lowest handicapped player with the highest, and so on. We'll see how it plays out. Changes can always be made for the next time.

[justsomeguy]

Just to be different, I'm happy with my team AND in shock!

[Big Johnny69]

Just to be different, I'm happy with my team AND in shock!

That's what I like to hear. On the plus side, my course isn't all that difficult. So I doubt we'll see 7s and 8s on any hole. That being said, I doubt we'll have a 6 or 7 under winning score. I think 2-4 under could win this. But be warned, the par 3s can play tough, especially if it's windy.

[Big Johnny69]

And if I was a betting man, if both players play to their ability, I think the teams to watch are Andy4Par/psniddy and jvincent/rancherJ.

Call it a hunch.

[justsomeguy]

I am just suprised I am the one with the lower handicap in my pairing...yikes...

the sad part is that my partner, justsomeguy has been playing on the NCGT this year with me, and I don't think I know who he is...

Craig, it wasn't NCGT - I think we played together at GOM this year with Andy4Par.

... and with you playing all the left-handed shots and me playing all the right-handed ones, I'm sure we'll be a perfect match!

[Big Johnny69]

Craig, it wasn't NCGT - I think we played together at GOM this year with Andy4Par.

... and with you playing all the left-handed shots and me playing all the right-handed ones, I'm sure we'll be a perfect match!

That's a good one.

[Indio]

Wooo...hooo.....I got the shark!!

Scott

You mean the IDIOT! Looking forward to playing with you again Scotty! I will let you carry the team since you are in such good shape

[BogeyGolf]

I was just joking Geoff, I am usually the weaker player...Ha Ha ha

I am good with my pairing, should be fun...

[XTOUR]

LOL....Should we arrange to wear orange again

[Indio]

I am just suprised I am the one with the lower handicap in my pairing...yikes...

the sad part is that my partner, justsomeguy has been playing on the NCGT this year with me, and I don't think I know who he is...

I think you know who he is.... just not his forum handle.....

[fundonny]

Who's LBH?