Not quite understanding the lost ball rule

[rezadue]

So I am trying to understand the rules a bit better and this one confuses me a bit.

Say you hit your drive and it find the bushes in the rough. It may or may not be findable. But it is definitely not OB. Rule 27.1 states that:

If a ball is

lost or is out of bounds, the player must play a ball,

under penalty of one stroke,

as nearly as possible at the spot

from which the original ball was last played

So a provisional must be played from the tee again and the provisional would be shot #3.
Later, in 27.1 when talking about provisional the rules state that:

If the original ball is

lost outside a water hazard or is out of
bounds, the provisional ball becomes the ball in play, under

penalty of stroke and distance (Rule 27-1).

Does this not mean the same thing as above? Why is it that in one case it states stroke and distance and in another stroke only?

[justsomeguy]

So I am trying to understand the rules a bit better and this one confuses me a bit.

Say you hit your drive and it find the bushes in the rough. It may or may not be findable. But it is definitely not OB. Rule 27.1 states that:

If a ball is

lost or is out of bounds, the player must play a ball,

under penalty of one stroke,

as nearly as possible at the spot

from which the original ball was last played

So a provisional must be played from the tee again and the provisional would be shot #3.
Later, in 27.1 when talking about provisional the rules state that:

If the original ball is

lost outside a water hazard or is out of
bounds, the provisional ball becomes the ball in play, under

penalty of stroke and distance (Rule 27-1).

Does this not mean the same thing as above? Why is it that in one case it states stroke and distance and in another stroke only?

Yes, they mean the same thing. When you play under a penalty of one stroke AND you must play from the spot that the original ball was last played, then you are being penalized a stroke AND distance.

[Skiddlydidly]

"under penalty of one stroke,
as nearly as possible at the spot
from which the original ball was last played "

"under penalty of stroke and distance "


They both say stroke and distance.

[AAA]

If a ball is

lost or is out of bounds, the player must play a ball,

under penalty of one stroke,

as nearly as possible at the spot
from which the original ball was last played

If the original ball is

lost outside a water hazard or is out of

bounds, the provisional ball becomes the ball in play, under

penalty of stroke and distance

In the red case the provisional ball was already played from the spot from which the original ball was last played. So it doesn't have to say that again