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    Emery Did it Again

    So TSN are reporting that Ray Emery was late for practice today and that the coach was furious and sent him back to the hotel.

    Is this the end of Emery in Ottawa? or with Gerber's less than stellar season so far, do they have to keep him around?

    What should they do?
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    send him to the minors and renegotiate his contract
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    Quote:
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    send him to the minors and renegotiate his contract

    That would be nice but I think he would need to clear waivers and the Sens would be on the hook for half his contract.
    Not much they can do, the Sens pretty much have theur hands tied with this guy. If they want to move him now is not the time. He needs to play, and play better, and then they can start shopping him around. Obviously, he's decreased his value by giving the entire league the impression he has a pathetic work ethic.
    I say keep him around until someone other teams' goalie gets hurt and they're in a weak bargaining positon. Unfortunately Emery needs game time to be of any real value.
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    Hmm.. I don't see them suspending him. Probably a fine. Bruce can certainly stir the pot, though..
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    Bottom line is that this guy is a classic primadonna. Being a primadonna is fine if you're on top of your game and stopping everything in sight, but he's not even close to be in top form.

    Send him home until you work out a deal. Let him fester.
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    A big deal about nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spackler View Post
    A big deal about nothing.
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    I really don't know why some people think this is not a big deal. I am the first one to defend athlete, but Emery went over the line. He is not 4 minutes late, he had to be on the ice at 4:00. He still has to find his stuff, get dress, do a bit of stretching, etc...

    The coach organize the practice from 4:00 to 5:00 for example. All the drills are organize with 2 goalies in mind. He HAS to be there on time, he is paid well to be there.

    I am sure after 4 days off, the coach had a good practice organize with some skating drill early in the practice...

    I think he is in trouble this time. They already gave him a few chances...

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    Doode had four days off. Doode can't seem to make it to the rink for a 4 PM practice, never mind being on the ice on time.
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    it would be no big deal if it were anyone else. it has become a big deal since it is Emery.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spackler View Post
    A big deal about nothing.
    A big deal about nothing if it were someone who hasn't done this in a while. Heck, it happens to all of us once in a while. You're on the phone for a conference call and it runs over, so you show up a bit late for a meeting. You apologize, and I'm quite sure you do everything in your power not to let it happen again. If you do, and you continue to repeat the pattern of behaviour, you're sending a strong signal to those who care to show up on time that a) you don't care as much as they do about what you are trying to accomplish as a team or group and b) that you don't respect their time, and are essentially wasting their time, especially considering how your position as a goaltender in practice is vital to how drills are organized. Essentially, this guy is giving his team mates, the coaches, and the management clear signals that he really doesn't care to be there any longer. Simple as that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffc View Post
    it would be no big deal if it were anyone else. it has become a big deal since it is Emery.
    Precisely, because it's a pattern of behaviour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chambokl View Post
    I really don't know why some people think this is not a big deal. I am the first one to defend athlete, but Emery went over the line. He is not 4 minutes late, he had to be on the ice at 4:00. He still has to find his stuff, get dress, do a bit of stretching, etc...

    The coach organize the practice from 4:00 to 5:00 for example. All the drills are organize with 2 goalies in mind. He HAS to be there on time, he is paid well to be there.

    I am sure after 4 days off, the coach had a good practice organize with some skating drill early in the practice...

    I think he is in trouble this time. They already gave him a few chances...
    The TSN report was saying that Paddock wants his guys there an hour before the practice starts, which means Emery was supposed to be there at 3:00, so that technically is 1:04 late. The guys were already on the ice when he showed up. Nice job of supporting your teammates, especially when you are being paid to be there!
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    he went to the wrong rink. i think they need to hire him a babysitter
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    Emery

    I can't beleive this guy. I was so rooting for him to do well this year after helping them to the finals last year (not leading, just helping). I'm so sick of his sh*#! Brian Murray should just eat the loss and send him to the minors permanently! If someone picks him up on waivers so be it. Call up Jeff Glass and be done with it. He can play 7 or 8 of the last 30 games and this gives Gerber a chance to really become #1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffc View Post
    he went to the wrong rink. i think they need to hire him a babysitter
    You would think at 3+ million a year he could afford a cell phone with US roaming capability!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffc View Post
    he went to the wrong rink. i think they need to hire him a babysitter
    If this is the case, and he made an honest mistake, some leeway may be granted by management. But really, these guys are told where to be and when. My 9 year old son knows where and when his practices and games are, and knows how far in advance we need to leave to get there on time, so Ray's 'excuses' may only go so far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chieflongtee View Post
    send him to the minors and renegotiate his contract
    Yup, would need to clear waivers, and you can almost guarantee he'd get picked up. But, on the way down ,the Sens aren't on the hook for half of his contract, thats only on the way back up.

    However, you can't renegotiate a contract. The last CBA has a clause saying this. For the benefit of the players and the teams, pretty much prevents "Yashin" situations.

    Sending him down should be a last resort. There's gotta be (at a minimum) a 2nd round pick out there. or we'll have to take on someone elses salary.

    Plus we still need a goalie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paulio View Post
    Hmm.. I don't see them suspending him. Probably a fine. Bruce can certainly stir the pot, though..
    The Sun is reporting it will be a fine only, like that is going to get thru this guys thick, wealthy skull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shivas Irons View Post
    The Sun is reporting it will be a fine only, like that is going to get thru this guys thick, wealthy skull.
    Don't kid, Emery is gonzo to the first team that ponies up a bag of pucks.....I still think we'll see him in a Kings Jersey sooner rather than later

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hacker View Post
    Don't kid, Emery is gonzo to the first team that ponies up a bag of pucks.....I still think we'll see him in a Kings Jersey sooner rather than later

    As long as we don't see him in a Sharks jersey!

    My opinion, he thinks he is above the team rules. To show up that late is inexcusible, whether you are an NHL'er or a Pee Wee player.

    He needs to grow up and step into the real world. Maybe some bus trips down in the Minors, (not the AHL either) would help his attitude. ECHL might be a good fit for about one month. Riding the bus and carrying his own equipment bag & sticks
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    Interesting article.

    http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Hockey/NHL...00155-sun.html


    Senators general manager Bryan Murray, who did admit he has tried to move the goalie with no takers, said minutes ago that Emery will be fined the maximum that the NHL's Collective Bargaining Agreement allows. It was not immediately clear how much that will be. Emery has also been told -- again -- that he has to live up the team's expectations




    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=228442&hubname=

    Murray also admitted that did not rule out trading his young goaltender.

    "I certainly have talked to some teams about goaltending," he explained. "At this moment, most teams feel satisfied with their goaltending, so there isn't any opportunity at the moment. The option is to leave him at home and not let him play and I don't know if I want to do that at this point in time."

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    All this trouble for a Back Up Goalie......Well at least he has a stick out in the new Mc D's stick collection........lol

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    Now the player's union says they will appeal the fine because they feel he did not technically miss the practice, he was late which is a $250 for the first time and $500 for the second. They say since he was turned away by the coach it is not his fault he missed the practice.

    The saga continues. Sad actualy because he has so much potential
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    In today's Ottawa Sun Earl McRae has says George Chuvalo called Emery a few months back and Emery didn't return his call. That seems really odd since Emery counts Chuvalo as one of his boxing heros and had his mug painted on his mask last year. One would think if one of your 'hero's' left you a message you would call him back. It just makes me think that whatever Emery's problem(s) are, they're formidable.

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    They can send him down hopping someone picks him up. Now I’m aware that on the way backup some other team can pick him up for half the price but what happens if they bring him back up after the trade deadline or just before the playoffs? Is there still a risk of losing him and still be stuck with half him pay? If not, that would be a kick in the nuts for Emery.
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    Well, I can't comment on whether it's true or not. I think he's a competitor, and he wants to play (which is a good thing...you don't want a guy who is going to lose his starting job and be happy about it). I would also think that he's as mad at himself as anybody. Sure, he lost his job through injury, but at the same time, he knows he hasn't played well enough to earn it back. Unfortunately for him, when he does play a decent game like last night, the team collapses around him and allows 4 glorious point blank chances. I hope Paddock puts him in for the next game, as I think he did earn it last night. He wasn't spectacular, but the team lost because the defence fell apart (again), not because Emery didn't play well enough.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonf View Post
    Well, I can't comment on whether it's true or not. I think he's a competitor, and he wants to play (which is a good thing...you don't want a guy who is going to lose his starting job and be happy about it). I would also think that he's as mad at himself as anybody. Sure, he lost his job through injury, but at the same time, he knows he hasn't played well enough to earn it back. Unfortunately for him, when he does play a decent game like last night, the team collapses around him and allows 4 glorious point blank chances. I hope Paddock puts him in for the next game, as I think he did earn it last night. He wasn't spectacular, but the team lost because the defence fell apart (again), not because Emery didn't play well enough.
    The defense and team really look lost without Alfie .

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