hardstepping parallel shafts

[dhacker1956]

If I put the 5 iron head on the 6 iron shaft will this hard step one step since the tip has been cut 1/2" more than recommended? If so I could then butt extend b4 I re grip. Never have done this b4 am I thinking straight? Is there a way to hard step w/o regripping? Remember they are parallel.

[jvincent]

Yes, you've got it right.

If you want to keep the original length then you will need to regrip and extend. No way around that.

[dhacker1956]

Thanx jvincent!

[Chieflongtee]

Not sure about what this is going to accomplish. If you are dealing with a step pattern shaft the first step wil be in a different spot. However by extending the shaft you will end up with a similar beam length therefore the frequency will not change much if any. IMO Hard stepping and soft steping will only be only effective before cutting the shaft to its final playing length.

[jvincent]

I assumed he was talking about a set shafts that require tip trim for flex first followed by butt trim to length.

In that scenario it should work fine since the "hard stepped" shaft just becomes a shaft with correct tip trim and too much butt trim.

[Chieflongtee]

I assumed he was talking about pull outs. You know what they say about assuming.

[The Saint]

I assumed he was talking about a set shafts that require tip trim for flex first followed by butt trim to length.

In that scenario it should work fine since the "hard stepped" shaft just becomes a shaft with correct tip trim and too much butt trim.

I umed the same thing.

[Chieflongtee]

Grabbed an old 5 and 6 iron head out of the bin.
Also grabbed a Dynalite .370 tip out of the bin.

Results:
6 iron @38.25 (260 gram head)= 290 cpms

Same shaft extended 1/2 inch
5 iron @38.75(253 gram head)=290 cpms

But hey. What the do I know

[dhacker1956]

I was going to put the 5 Iron head on the 6 Iron shaft. This would make the length of the club 37.5". What would the freq be on this? What would it be if I took the same shaft and put the 5 iron head on it and extended it tp 38" Never intended to make it 38.75" long. These are pulls. TX90's. What I wanted was just a little more "beef" and a slightly lower ball flight. Thanx for any feed back on this. Sorry my original post was not clear.

[Chieflongtee]

The 38.75 reference was just an example of what happens when you switch shafts and you reextend it.

What would the freq be on this?

Don't know. It depends on how they were tipped in the first place and how much the heads weigh and if they were 7 grams apart to begin with.

These are pulls. TX90's. What I wanted was just a little more "beef" and a slightly lower ball flight.

If you don't extend it will be a little stiffer but not much and ball flight will not be altered all that much if any. To have the exact numbers you'd have to have a robot swing them and a launch monitor to measure the differences. IMHO if you want to lower ball flight you'd have to go with 1 to 2 flexes stiffer. The changes you are considering will not accomplish a lower ball flight.

[dhacker1956]

The shafts were pulled from stock Nike Slingshots. They were tipped the recommended amount. The heads are Founders club Fresh metals 2006 model. they are standard weight also. I would assume that would mean all is what they would normally be. I don't want to go from Regular to stiff. Just want maybe a 1/3 to 1/2 flex stiffer.

Thanx for your help

[Chieflongtee]

If they were frequency matched to begin with and if you just put the 6 in the 5 with no extension the frequency will go up by approx 4 cycles per minute. 10 cpms is about 1 flex. So 4 cpms is right about where you want it.

[dhacker1956]

Could I expect lower spin and flight if I do the change with no extension? And in your opinion I would get no stiffening(?) if I extend?

[Chieflongtee]

Not enough to make a significant difference in my opinion. Loft is the primary factor in spin. You'll get a bigger difference in ball flight if you have the lofts bent stronger. If you extend you will not notice a difference in stiffness.

[dhacker1956]

A huge American Thanx chief!!! I wish I lived up there in Canada so you could do my club work.

D

[Chieflongtee]

Where are you located in the US?

[dhacker1956]

1/2 way between Chicago and Indianapolis just off of US interstate 65.

You are welcome to come a play anytime. several nice Pete DYE layouts around here. and one SUPER Hale Irwin job!!!

D

[Chieflongtee]

Thanks. It's been a whille since I drove through Chicago(Like 25 years ago )

[spackler]

But hey. What the do I know

lol!