Redden would consider Paycut to Stay (Ottawa Sun)

[PEI Golfing]

From todays Ottawa Sun. Redden would consider paycut to stay..........

http://www.ottawasun.com/Sports/Sena...34006-sun.html

[Weazl]

He would have to, and a fairly significant one at that I think. I would give him 4 million.

[jonf]

He would have to, and a fairly significant one at that I think. I would give him 4 million.

4 is still overpaying for him. baseline salary of 2.5, with heavy incentives. Make him earn his dough. If he doesn't like it, then there are plenty of other D-men out there.

[1972Apex]

Redden really, really wants to stay here... money be damned.
The team clearly doesn't want him anymore and others will pay more, but he still desperately seems to want to stay in Ottawa. I cannot help but think there is another major reason other than hockey that is not being made public

[Indio]

Redden really, really wants to stay here... money be damned.
The team clearly doesn't want him anymore and others will pay more, but he still desperately seems to want to stay in Ottawa. I cannot help but think there is another major reason other than hockey that is not being made public

I agree, there is definitely something more to it than meets the eye. Everyone has heard all the rumors about him but something tells me, as you say, that has not been made public. I guess only time will tell

[PEI Golfing]

I agree, there is definitely something more to it than meets the eye. Everyone has heard all the rumors about him but something tells me, as you say, that has not been made public. I guess only time will tell

Really...........I am shocked to hear that....................

[3Jack]

Redden really, really wants to stay here... money be damned.
The team clearly doesn't want him anymore and others will pay more, but he still desperately seems to want to stay in Ottawa. I cannot help but think there is another major reason other than hockey that is not being made public

How do you know that the team clearly doesn't want him? Murray has said repeatedly that he would like to have Redden back.

The innuendo regarding Redden, or any other player for that matter, is worthless water-cooler gossip.

[davevandyk]

see it all depends what he means by "pay cut"... does he mean from the 6.5million he is currently making, or a pay cut from what he will be woth next year.

I think they can still afford to keep him next year. They have Redden, Kelly, Donovan, Robitaille and Luke Richardson as UFA's as well as Eaves, Vermette, McGrattan, and Meszaros as RFA's.

You would expect Kelly, Eaves, Vermette and Meszaros to get raises and McGrattan to stay similar. The other guys are expendable i would think.

Its not gonna be easy for Murray and they are gonna have to do something with Gerber, hopefully move the contract for a rental player who will be a UFA next year.

[Hacker]

I'm not as keen as I once was to see Gerber traded out of town......he's been SOLID and Ray doesn't look like himself yet

[Weazl]

I'm not as keen as I once was to see Gerber traded out of town......he's been SOLID and Ray doesn't look like himself yet

Agreed!

[jeffc]

it's wade's choice. Someone will offer him $6-7M to play elsewhere on a longterm contract. If he wants to get a big pay day, he is in line. I think the Sens might give him $3-4M and perhaps not as long a term. Really you can't pay him more than Phillips. Even Volchenkov at 2.5M is a bargain.

The Sens have to sign Kelly and Vermette who in my opinion, are more critical to the teams long term success. These guys are the glue that holds the team together and key to the PK.

[Hacker]

After this year he will have made 33 million from the Sens......he's made his money, so if he wants a legitimate chance for the cup he's going to have to settle for less.

Contrary to popular belief, the proof is not in the pudding, rather it is in the EATING of the pudding - Redden isn't going to be able to have his pudding and eat it to he'll have to decide between maximizing his income or maximizing his chances for a ring

[rezadue]

I would only be in favour of signing him for less money, if he can continue to show he no longer has "groin" problems. Otherwise you just don't know what you are going to get with him and any money spent on hium, would be money wasted.

[larry]

I think Redden saying he'd be willing to take a pay cut to stay in Ottawa is a breath of fresh air. I am sick of players running off to other teams, usually the same teams time after time, chasing the all mighty buck. Look at Buffalo. Just when they reached a point where they were one of the top teams in the league, their top guys jump ship for more money else where. And Redden knows he can become a free agent and take his pick of big money offers from a dozen other teams. I just wish there were more players like him in the league.

[jeffc]

I just wish there were more players like him in the league.

there are. They're named Phillips, Volchenkov, Alfie, Spezza, Heatley, Fisher....

[Weazl]

[Indio]

there are. They're named Phillips, Volchenkov, Alfie, Spezza, Heatley, Fisher....

It is already a great list but something tells me you will be able to add Kelly and Vermette to that list soon. The core 'star players' need guys like them around!!!

[jeffc]

It is already a great list but something tells me you will be able to add Kelly and Vermette to that list soon. The core 'star players' need guys like them around!!!

I think you will see Vermette and Kelly signed. Personally, I would take them over Redden especially since you could sign both for the cost of Redden and I think they are more worthy of the cash and very valuable players. Both are excellent 2 way players with lots of speed and youth on their side.

I really like how all the pieces are starting to fit together on this team and they realize how good they have it.

[Hacker]

I'm not sure about you Indio, but I'll give a home town discount to be part of the team

Go Sens GO!!

Blow Leafs BLOW!!

[Indio]

I'm not sure about you Indio!!

Hell, that doesn't surprise me, I'm not sure about myself most of the time!

[3Jack]

But the real question is, do they have room in the cap to sign a near 40 year-old never-was with diminishing / non-existent skills, shys away from physical contact, looks good in the uniform kind of player who is willing to play for league minimum - ie, me?

[Hacker]

But the real question is, do they have room in the cap to sign a near 40 year-old never-was with diminishing / non-existent skills, shys away from physical contact, looks good in the uniform kind of player who is willing to play for league minimum - ie, me?

Maybe, if Indio was the GM...........otherwise you're SOL my friend

[Indio]

Maybe, if Indio was the GM...........otherwise you're SOL my friend

GM???? General Maintenance?

[Hacker]

GM???? General Maintenance?

No, Golfer Moron........oh wait, you already hold that title

[Indio]

No, Golfer Moron........oh wait, you already hold that title

Well the 3jack is hired! Just show up a practice Monday and tell them Indio said to slot you in Reddens spot on D.

[jonf]

But the real question is, do they have room in the cap to sign a near 40 year-old never-was with diminishing / non-existent skills, shys away from physical contact, looks good in the uniform kind of player who is willing to play for league minimum - ie, me?

Man...until you got to the league minimum part I could have sworn you were talking about Nolan and Francis

[Big Johnny69]

Man...until you got to the league minimum part I could have sworn you were talking about Nolan and Francis

I'll agree with you on Nolan, but don't drag Francis' name through the mud with Nolan's. He was a class act, and a solid player right to the end.

[Big Johnny69]

After watching Redden play again last night, not sure why they'd want to keep him. Not sure where his skill level went, but it looks like he's doing everything in slow motion. And the lack of effort to get the puck deep at the offensive blue line. Turnover after turnover. I say let him go. I'm sure we could find a much cheaper player out there that would put forth the same effort and make the same mistakes.


But truthfully, if we were talking about the Redden of say 3 or 4 seasons ago, I'd say we would be real lucky as Sens fans to hear he'd take a pay cut to stay in town, but now I couldn't care less if he goes or stays.

[3Jack]

Damn. I was a damn fine Midget A playah back in the day, honest. Until that one coach screwed me. I coulda been a star!

Not. Funny how many of those you'll find in you local men's league though.

[jeffc]

he's an RFA at the end of the year. Again, it's his decision if he wants to stay or earn more somewhere else. The good news is that if he does get signed to a big fat offer sheet, Ottawa will get some compensation.

this is a great site for this info:

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.php?team=OTT