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09-03-2003 01:41 PM #1
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Number of balls played
Kind of a dumb question but can you use one ball until you get to the green and then use another ball to putt with?
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09-03-2003 02:02 PM #2Originally Posted by Noodles
You must hole out with the ball you put in play from the teeing ground.
You may only substitute a ball under very specific circumstances that may occur during play of the hole, and they must be a result of your play.
You may substitute any ball for your ball in play if:
1) It becomes seriously cut or out of round. You must allow your opponent or fellow-competitor to see the ball before you may take it out of play. There are further rules about the status of a ball so taken out of play if you decide on a later hole to put this ball back in play.
2) The ball in play becomes lost or lost in a hazard.
3) The ball in play is out of reach in an obstruction, or hole of a burrowing animal.
4) The ball cannot be retrieved, but is identified.
In situations 1 and 3, you may substitute a ball without penalty, and in 2 and 4 you must apply the appropriate penalty for either lost, lost in a hazard, or unplayable.
(and as always wait for Gary to confirm, this is just the rule as I remember it, I'd always verify my options from the rules before taking a ball out of play)Last edited by spidey; 09-03-2003 at 02:33 PM. Reason: spelling only
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09-03-2003 04:09 PM #3
spidey has posted only a small list of the many situations in which a ball may be subsituted, but the basic premise is correct.
Rule 15-1. A player must hole out with the ball played from the teeing ground unless a Rule permits him to substitute another ball.
Rule 16-1b allows you to lift your ball on the putting green, but does not provide for the substitution of another ball.
The lifted ball must be replaced.
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09-03-2003 05:08 PM #4Originally Posted by Gary Hill[color=blue]s[/color][color=red]p[/color][color=blue]i[/color][color=red]d[/color][color=blue]e[/color][color=red]y[/color]
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09-03-2003 05:12 PM #5
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09-03-2003 08:05 PM #6
Homework assignment:
List ALL the cases where a ball may be substituted during play of hole.
(Penmanship counts) :greensmil
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09-05-2003 01:58 PM #7Originally Posted by Gary Hill
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5-3. Ball Unfit for Play
.... If it is determined that the ball has become unfit for play during play of the hole being played, the player may substitute another ball, placing it on the spot where the original ball lay....
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10-1. Match Play
c. Playing Out of Turn
If a player plays when his opponent should have played, the opponent may immediately require the player to cancel the stroke so played and, in correct order, play a ball without penalty as nearly as possible at the spot from which the original ball was last played (see Rule 20-5).
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15-1. General
A player must hole out with the ball played from the teeing ground unless a Rule permits him to substitute another ball. If a player substitutes another ball when not so permitted, that ball is not a wrong ball; it becomes the ball in play and, if the error is not corrected as provided in Rule 20-6, the player shall incur a penalty of loss of hole in match play or two strokes in stroke play.
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Rule 18. Ball at Rest Moved
Note 1: If a ball to be replaced under this Rule is not immediately recoverable, another ball may be substituted.
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20-2. Dropping and Re-dropping
c. When to Re-Drop
...If a ball to be re-dropped or placed under this Rule is not immediately recoverable, another ball may be substituted. ...
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24-2. Immovable Obstruction
Note 2: If a ball to be dropped or placed under this Rule is not immediately recoverable, another ball may be substituted.
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24-2. c Ball Lost
Through the Green: If the ball last entered the immovable obstruction at a spot through the green, the player may substitute another ball without penalty and take relief as prescribed in Rule 24-2b(i).
In a Bunker: If the ball last entered the immovable obstruction at a spot in a bunker, the player may substitute another ball without penalty and take relief as prescribed in Rule 24-2b(ii).
In a Water Hazard (including a Lateral Water Hazard): If the ball last entered the immovable obstruction at a spot in a water hazard, the player is not entitled to relief without penalty. The player shall proceed under Rule 26-1.
On the Putting Green: If the ball last entered the immovable obstruction at a spot on the putting green, the player may substitute another ball without penalty and take relief as prescribed in Rule 24-2b(iii).
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25-1. Abnormal Ground Condition
Note 2: If a ball to be dropped or placed under this Rule is not immediately recoverable, another ball may be substituted.
c. Ball Lost
Through the Green: If the ball last entered the abnormal ground condition at a spot through the green, the player may substitute another ball without penalty and take relief as prescribed in Rule 25-1b(i).
In a Bunker: If the ball last entered the abnormal ground condition at a spot in a bunker, the player may substitute another ball without penalty and take relief as prescribed in Rule 25-1b(ii).
In a Water Hazard (including a Lateral Water Hazard): If the ball last entered the abnormal ground condition at a spot in a water hazard, the player is not entitled to relief without penalty. The player shall proceed under Rule 26-1.
On the Putting Green: If the ball last entered the abnormal ground condition at a spot on the putting green, the player may substitute another ball without penalty and take relief as prescribed in Rule 25-1b(iii).
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Rule 26. Water Hazards
(Including Lateral Water Hazards)
...everywhere it says "a ball"
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Rule 27. Ball Lost or Out of Bounds;
Provisional Ball
...everywhere it says "a ball"
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Rule 28. Ball Unplayable
...everywhere it says "a ball"[color=blue]s[/color][color=red]p[/color][color=blue]i[/color][color=red]d[/color][color=blue]e[/color][color=red]y[/color]
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09-05-2003 05:12 PM #8
Most impressive !!!
In particular, your acknowledgement of the difference between "a ball" and "the ball".
For example: Rule 24-2b. says: The player shall lift the ball and drop it within one club-length....
That means that you must drop the ball that lay in/on the obstruction.
But Rule 28-b. allows you to: Drop a ball within two club-lengths ....
That means you can take a ball out of your bag and drop it, even though the ball you declared unplayable is within reach.
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09-08-2003 09:10 AM #9Originally Posted by Gary Hill[color=blue]s[/color][color=red]p[/color][color=blue]i[/color][color=red]d[/color][color=blue]e[/color][color=red]y[/color]
[color=seagreen]"Got more dirt than ball. Here we go again."
Alan Shepard, Apollo 14 Commander, Amateur-Golfer, preparing to take another swing during his famous moon walk in 1971.
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09-08-2003 09:51 AM #10
way to go spidey
You da man!
I've spent most of my life golfing .... the rest I've just wasted"
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09-08-2003 01:08 PM #11
Omitted:
Rule 6-8d (Resumption of play after suspension of play)
If a player leaves his ball on the course when play is discontinued, he may replace the ball when play is resumed.
Rule 24-1 Movable Obstruction
But you still get an "A".
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09-08-2003 02:14 PM #12Originally Posted by Gary Hill
"A" is good.
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[color=seagreen]"Got more dirt than ball. Here we go again."
Alan Shepard, Apollo 14 Commander, Amateur-Golfer, preparing to take another swing during his famous moon walk in 1971.
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09-08-2003 02:35 PM #13
I could tell you, but then I would have to kill you.
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09-08-2003 05:05 PM #14
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09-08-2003 08:59 PM #15
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09-08-2003 09:23 PM #16
Hehehe What I meant was, I stole it from you, to add to our smilies here.
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09-09-2003 12:41 PM #17
related question?
What about substituting a different type of ball, is this allowed? It is my recollection that you must play the same type of ball for the entire round. You can't use a distance ball for the par fives and a spin ball for the par threes. Is this true?
thx,
4jag.If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.
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09-09-2003 01:31 PM #18Originally Posted by 4jag
The rules allow you to use any type of ball you want any place you're allowed to substitute, or put a ball in play. (well, assuming that the ball conforms)[color=blue]s[/color][color=red]p[/color][color=blue]i[/color][color=red]d[/color][color=blue]e[/color][color=red]y[/color]
[color=seagreen]"Got more dirt than ball. Here we go again."
Alan Shepard, Apollo 14 Commander, Amateur-Golfer, preparing to take another swing during his famous moon walk in 1971.
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09-09-2003 01:50 PM #19
The Committe may include this Local Rule in the conditions of competition.
One Ball Condition
During a stipulated round, the balls a player uses must be of the same brand and type as detailed by a single entry on the current List of Conforming Golf Balls.
Most pro events use this Local Rule including all the major Tours.
Ottawa Zone CPGA events use this Local Rule.Last edited by Gary Hill; 09-09-2003 at 02:17 PM.
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