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    Shaft Tipping?

    Ok, I know nothing in this regard. Looking for some help. I have a 757 Speeder R flex. I love this shaft in my TaylorMade 510TP (390CC head). I have now installed it in my Nike Sasquatch Tour (460CC head). The shaft seems to play quit a bit softer in the Sasq. I am guessing this is due to the larger club head... I was wondering if I tipped the shaft could I stiffen it a bit? I would have no prob with playing the shaft shorter.. It plays 35 in the Sasq. now.. I would be up for 44.5" Probably don't want to go a lot shorter.. So any thoughts on how much to tip the shaft?

    Any thoughts are appreciated.
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    Bigger does not always equal heavier, the driver is typically the lightest club in the bag.

    Can you weigh the 2 heads?

    How about dry fitting the shaft in the two heads and measuring the freq of each combination?

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    I don't want add weight to the head I don't think... The shaft is already playing softer.. I still have a 510TP.. I guess I could freq. them both and see... The 757 is playing too soft in the Sasq. I am looking to make it a bit stiffer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance LePage View Post
    Ok, I know nothing in this regard. Looking for some help. I have a 757 Speeder R flex. I love this shaft in my TaylorMade 510TP (390CC head). I have now installed it in my Nike Sasquatch Tour (460CC head). The shaft seems to play quit a bit softer in the Sasq. I am guessing this is due to the larger club head... I was wondering if I tipped the shaft could I stiffen it a bit? I would have no prob with playing the shaft shorter.. It plays 35 in the Sasq. now.. I would be up for 44.5" Probably don't want to go a lot shorter.. So any thoughts on how much to tip the shaft?

    Any thoughts are appreciated.

    If I am not mistaken the Sasquatch tour has a longer BBGM . I guess that you would be able to conform this if you have a longer club when you switched the shaft from the R510 to the Sasquatch or had to cut it down at the butt.

    In any event a longer BBGM will typically result in a shaft playing softer.

    so yes you can tip it to stiffen it up although, I am not sure that 1/2 inch would be significant.

    the other things that can come into play are head weight as stated already, pretty easy to tell that and it would have to be a fir amount of weight to make the shaft noticeably softer.

    Also, shaft orientation can affect the stiffness, Speeders are known for large spines and being inconsistent around the shaft ( at least the several I have tested have been) so if you did not orient the shaft the same as it was in the other club it could very well play a 1/2 or more flex stiffer ( or softer for that matter)


    so any one or combination of these could come into play

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    Thanks for the replies guys.. Not sure what to do. Maybe I will just look for a S flex Speeder..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Weirfan View Post
    If I am not mistaken the Sasquatch tour has a longer BBGM . I guess that you would be able to conform this if you have a longer club when you switched the shaft from the R510 to the Sasquatch or had to cut it down at the butt.

    In any event a longer BBGM will typically result in a shaft playing softer.

    so yes you can tip it to stiffen it up although, I am not sure that 1/2 inch would be significant.

    the other things that can come into play are head weight as stated already, pretty easy to tell that and it would have to be a fir amount of weight to make the shaft noticeably softer.

    Also, shaft orientation can affect the stiffness, Speeders are known for large spines and being inconsistent around the shaft ( at least the several I have tested have been) so if you did not orient the shaft the same as it was in the other club it could very well play a 1/2 or more flex stiffer ( or softer for that matter)


    so any one or combination of these could come into play
    I have found it to be the opposite with Speeders. The spine is not as detectable as they are in other brands. Having said that, I use a 652 "R" flex Speeder tipped 1/2 ". I tryed the "S" model and it was way to much shaft for me. Speeder tip sections are all of 2" long, so the 1/2" I took of my "R" flex was a good move . It's in the butt section where you will feel the big difference in the 2 shafts.

    There you go, for what it's worth !

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    If I cut 1/2" off the tip of the speeder, any idea what the results will be?
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    Crystal ball my friend. Some shafts react to tip trimming while others don't. I tipped an EI 70 shaft 1 inch after a previous install and extended 1 inch it at the butt. The frequency was the same as before.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance LePage View Post
    If I cut 1/2" off the tip of the speeder, any idea what the results will be?
    Like Weirfan stated, the BBGM is longer in the NIKE, hence the softer feel. I would not tip more than a 1/2" on the Speeder because of the short tip section. What is the difference between the BBGM of both clubs ? Let's not overlook the positioning of the CG between both heads. Lower CG heads feel different than TP models on a shaft.
    Like chief eluded to, crystal ball, trial and error. Besides , what's a new 757 cost, about $250.00. Peanuts !!!

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