Weather

[RBAKER]

Dan,
True enough. The weather is changing everywhere. Better for the golfer!
The air will be cleaner with 1MM VS 4.5 MM population.
Truth be told, PEI & I are having an Ottawa vs Toronto weather P- match.
Well I'm sure many people would consider both cities to have less then favourable climates.
I just hope this summer isn't as wet as the last one we had.
RB

[RBAKER]

Victora or Ottawa?

[PEI Golfing]

Those usually don't slow us down too much. After all, in Ottawa we know how to shovel our own snow.

Yeah, maybe the reason golf season starts early down there is that the T.O. Mayor has the army shoveling off the fairways and greens.............

[PEI Golfing]

Perhaps a couple of weeks. We often start in late March or early April and play until the end of November regularly. This year they played through Dec and even on Jan 7th in frosty conditions. The climate is not very different at all, but the air here is definitely cleaner which to me makes the summer heat much less stifling.

EXACTLY..............Well said.............!!!!!!!!!!!

[LHSteve]

P.E.I ,

Yes I do live in Mississauga, here is a something : 2006 I played every month of the year Jan- through December- Did you in Ottawa?

Our season starts on a regular year March 22 or so- and runs right to the end of November. Thats got to be a couple of months longer than Ottawa.
Not to argue, I love a lot of things about Ottawa, but please do not tell me the weather there is better than Toronto. I would know, I've spent each half of my life in both Cities.

RB

After moving from Ottawa to London I mostly agree with you. I loved Ottawa, lived there for 18 years but do not miss the winters.
I would not say the golf season is month's longer though. I would say 2 weeks at either end is about the difference.

[jonf]

Victora or Ottawa?

I was talking about Ottawa (grew up in Ottawa, go to school in Victoria). They do NOT know how to shovel snow out here. 6 inches shuts down everything for at least 2 days. It's pretty much the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[RBAKER]

About Ottawa Weather

The climate and weather in Ottawa goes from one extreme to the other, with extremely warm and humid summers and cold, snowy winters. During the winter it snows a lot, and snow is not uncommon both in spring and autumn. Temperatures well below freezing are experienced in winter, and the bitter Ottawa weather is punctuated by the extremely cold wind chill. The best part of the cold Ottawa weather in the winter is the largest outdoor skating rink, the Rideau Canal is able to be open for months at a time!

Summer brings sunshine and pleasant days, with high humidity on many occasions, although highs seldom exceed 100°F (38°C), they can when you combine the humidity that comes from Ottawa being in a valley. Rain can be expected any time of year in Ottawa, but late summer, early fall tends to be the wettest seasons. A feature of Ottawa Weather is the possibility of late autumn heat waves, enjoyed as 'Indian summers', which frequently occur.

[byerxa]

I grew up in the TO area and have lived in Ottawa for 14 years. Ottawa is definitely colder in the winter. There is no spring in Ottawa. I find in Ottawa it takes a couple of extra weeks to get going in the spring and we get a week or so less in the fall (typically). One odd weather thing I found is that Ottawa is just far enough east to get the fringe of an occasional storm going up the east coast where we get snotty east winds - almost never get that in Toronto area.

Pollution is definitely worse in the whole south western Ontario region compared to here. However, the last few summers some the of the smog has crept into this area. My wife has asthma and refuses to move back to the TO region mainly because of air quality.

Overall the weather in the TO region is definitely better, except for the smog.

[Kilroy]

Well, Victoria is kinda hilly, no snow removal equipment and NOBODY has a clue how to drive in it. So yah, I too found it pretty silly to be sure.

[RBAKER]

PEI, not hurting my feelings I lived in Ottawa most of my life & I'm not a BIG fan of Toronto.
Again, I wouldn't trade the weather. I will make sure I let you know how the golf is April 10th out here, while they still haven't een confirmed an open date for Greyhawk by that time!

Hee, hee........ watch out for the ICE storms.

[RBAKER]

Thanks Byerxa,
Exactly what I feel.

RB

[Kilroy]

Greyhawk is not the benchmark for course openings here. They are among the last to open in late April.

[RBAKER]

Same here. Clublink is a couple of weeks later all the way around I guess.
Except Rolling Hills. Last year Rolling Hills was open Mid March, and closed I think we played it 2 days before Christmas.

RB

[jonf]

Well, Victoria is kinda hilly, no snow removal equipment and NOBODY has a clue how to drive in it. So yah, I too found it pretty silly to be sure.

Nope, it certainly isn't built for snow. Very hilly, as you said, the roads are also narrower (I find), which leaves less margin for error. The double decker busses have a heck of time. There's absolutely zero snow removal equipment. And everyone thinks that the best way to get moving when there's little tractions is to FLOOR the gas and make a really dumb face when you don't go anywhere..then repeat the process until someone tells you to just press the gas lightly until you feel the tires grab, and slowly excelerate. Then, inevitably, they don't believe you, and try slamming on the gas at least three more times, at which point you walk on laughing. Then there are the people who put chains on their tires. Yep, just tie on some chains and tear up the roads. I saw a truck driving down the road in first year throwing up sparks and was so confused. Somebody explained to me that there were chains on the tires...i was still confused.

[Kilroy]

Same here. Clublink is a couple of weeks later all the way around I guess.

Makes me wonder why you would use Greyhawk as the example then.

[RBAKER]

I figured thats where PEI was a member: Greyhawk, aren't most of you on this blog?

[RBAKER]

Winter AWOL as 9.2C day follows warmest December on record books

Jan 02, 2007 04:30 AM
Moira Welsh
STAFF REPORTER

If this weather keeps up, it won't be long before Toronto is the new Florida.
For now, it's the new Vancouver.
Toronto just emerged from the warmest December on record, a month characterized by balmy days, rain showers and the lowest snowfall this city has ever seen.
Even yesterday's high of 9.2C broke a record for the warmest New Year's Day – albeit by 0.1C – giving Toronto a West Coast winter while Vancouver has been struggling with uncharacteristic cold and snow.
"We can honestly say that winter hasn't really come to the GTA and southern Ontario," said David Phillips, senior climatologist with Environment Canada.

[Kilroy]

I figured thats where PEI was a member: Greyhawk, aren't most of you on this blog?

This is not a blog (single person's web log) and no there is only a small percentage of CL members here. Perhaps you and Pei should take your debate to PM since it is obviously not intended for rest of us.

[Kilroy]

Winter AWOL as 9.2C day follows warmest December on record books

As I pointed out we had record highs here in Ottawa this year too. People played golf as late as Feb 7th so I don't really see your point.

[jonf]

HAHA...Toronto is the new Vancouver. That statement is the essence of why so many people dislike Toronto. It's the new Vancouver...just without the clean air, picturesuqe mountains, gorgeous ocean vistas, and well,, all the things that make Vancouver one of the most beautiful cities in the world.

[Kilroy]

LOL absolutely right jonf! Vancouver is stunning!

[RBAKER]

Well if you played Feb 7 you have us beat by a month! Thats amazing.
I agree time to move out,sorry for the arguments

RB

[RBAKER]

Ya, even I don't like Toronto and I live here.
Okay well the weather and associated bordome has made me and obviously a few others not all "warm and fuzzy"

Ottawa wins.... lets talk about Politics now?

[Kilroy]

Well, I didn't say conditions were great, but the point is we are only a few hours away and the climate is not that different. Both have minor pluses and minuses that even out what little differences there are. It's all good and it was an interesting debate

[Kilroy]

I did not play past the end of Nov personally, but there are a few forum members in this clip
A-Channel interviews form January 6th http://www.achannel.ca/ottawa/news_39117.aspx

[RBAKER]

Okay lets change the topic: New Topic doesn't include the SMOG or Weather.

Your top 5 CL courses in TO

top 5 CL courses in Eastern Ont/ Quebec

King Valley
Greystone
GlenCairn
National Pines
Heron Point



FountainBlue
Le Maitre
Greyhawk
Val Des Lac
Haute Plain

[Kilroy]

The topic of this thread is weather. If you want a new topic start a new thread please.

[RBAKER]

Back to weather! Okay good night, thanks for the Video Clip. Looked a little to wet for me.

RB

[Kilroy]

True, that's why I was not there! LOL!

[PEI Golfing]

This is not a blog (single person's web log) and no there is only a small percentage of CL members here. Perhaps you and Pei should take your debate to PM since it is obviously not intended for rest of us.

Not interested in PM about the weather or even any further discussion about the Ottawa weather......... I have to get back to other important PMs such as "Should my cap match my shirt".........