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08-03-2006 06:42 PM #1
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Clearkeys Holy S#%t
Well I'm one of these that has the brain wondering in many different directions while playing a round and decided after a number of rounds with a lot of chunked chip shots and really bad short irons. I tried it last season during a round but couldn't stay focused on a poem during any shot so shelved it. Tuesday I first tried it on the range before playing and hit a bunch of really good shots with a nice smooth swing so decided to use it during my round. As I played the first nine alone it was a good chance to try it and not have any extra distractions other than my own shots. I was surprised at the good shots that I made and went 3 over using it every shot. The next nine BCMIST joined me and I didn't tell him tell most of the way around the 9 that I was trying it and he had noticed a much smoother tempo in my swing and I made some really good shots and was even for that nine. Todays round I was using it again and the interesting thing was that I felt I only miss hit a half dozen shots and most of those were when I got set up and started my poem and then my brain started thinking of something else. Anyway I am definitely going to keep up with this as I feel it is really helping my game and keeping all the swing thoughts out of my game, especially on the shots inside 100yds where in three rounds I haven't chunked or skulled one. WoooooHooooo
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08-03-2006 07:15 PM #2"Richard"Guest
Hmmm. what poem did you use?? I am going to try some andrew dice clay
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08-03-2006 07:27 PM #3
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The poem can be anything or song lyrics. Just anything non golf related that you can repeat on each shot. I did my preshot routine and once I got the club behind the ball I just started saying it. Very interesting results as the brain takes over on the swing and I'm not thinking any swing thoughts.
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08-03-2006 07:31 PM #4"Richard"Guest
I know, but I wanted to know what your poen was.
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08-03-2006 07:39 PM #5
I tried it the other day and found it just made things worse. I felt a lot more natural / thought free when just playing as I normally do. I found that trying to think of a lyric just distracted me from the golf shot I was supposed to be taking. I do think I will start playing with an ipod when I"m out in Victoria (and hence playing alone) because I am definitely able to sink away into unconciousness when listening to music
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08-03-2006 08:28 PM #6
I have tried a couple of songs in my head, but some where to upbeat, others to somber. Hard to find just the right thing for repetitive use. I also find it difficult to really pinpoint what I am thinking about, my mind tends to bounce all over the map, A.D.D. style. For the most part this year, what I really think is primarily in my concious mind when I swing it that shoulder click business. Maybe that click is my clear key, I dunno.
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08-03-2006 08:32 PM #7"Richard"Guest
I guess the trick is to find something that works for you. The most I'm ever relaxed on a golf course is when I'm whistling patience by guns and roses... maybe I'll do that but my FC's might have a problem with that but screw them
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08-03-2006 09:54 PM #8AndruGuest
This is no joke I imagine the sounds of a PGA tour event. The crowd hushing when I take my stance, the clap after a good shot. It helps me play my best. I played that way during intersectionals and played extremely well. I missed two putts inside of 12 feet all day and those two didn't matter as I had closed out all 3 matches by then.
When I become flustered or frustrated I start reciting shakesphere. With the emphasis on the iambic pentameter and the variation used in this passage.
To be or not to be: that is the question
Works every time, puts me back in the moment. The 3 putt is history.
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08-04-2006 07:32 AM #9
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cool keys
Originally Posted by jonf
my short game has sky rocketed with alot of hard dedication and clearkeys. I think i'll ask Carey to chime in on this forum. I didnt know some of you guys are on the clearkey bandwagon.
but this is for Thotho, its kinda fun looking at dad and 2 bros in the sunday match, with a 15 footer uphill breaker, and i look at them and go outloud:
'FLY ME TO THE MOON, LET ME SING AMONG THE STARS, LET ME SEE WHAT SPRING IS LIKE ON, JUPITER AND MARS'
drained it...lol ...to this day, that freaked them out.
have a good one,
Jerome
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08-04-2006 07:35 AM #10
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Originally Posted by thotho
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08-04-2006 07:55 AM #11
Mr Sun and Rock a by Bear
I thought when I had kids my "game" would suffer. I dramatically improved after.....I now have patience and 2 kids songs to sing that seem to put me in a "happy place".
Mr Sun on some CD they have and Rock a by Bear (Wiggles).
Oh yea, I frown on cell phone usage of the course........but I was playing poorly one day and had to check v-mails...........I walked, hit and listend..........walked hit and listend. Once I stopped thinking.........it all came back. (Whatever IT is)[I][COLOR=royalblue]"95% of the putts that don't make it to the hole.............won't go in"[/COLOR][/I]
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08-04-2006 09:23 AM #12
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i just contacted doc clearkey himself...he will possibly join us in this thread, he is awaiting registeration stuff from this site.
meanwhile, he has givin me this following link to discuss or should i say debate? lol.
http://doubleconnexion.com/ClearTips.htm
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08-04-2006 09:28 AM #13
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Originally Posted by jonf
Obviously there will be golfers to whom Clear Key will seem goofy. IMO, like trying to effect changes in one's mechanics, you have to believe or TRUST that what you are doing is correct, and when that happens you will persevere. Clear key takes time and practice but it is worth the effort. Many golfers still want quick fixes so trying it once and then discarding because there wasn't instant success is unfair to the method.
You don't TRUST it. So don't do it until you do. Read all the wonderful, free information at ww.clearkeygolf.com and then decide.
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08-04-2006 10:09 AM #14
I sunk a putt the other day atleast 100 feet. I barely lined up and used my clear key. I used to use the clear key for all but putting but now I find putting is the most important for the clear key I"ve been putting it stupid close. I forget about th eclear key alot while I"m paying and suffer for it.
I think the clearkey is the perfect solution for people w/ the prolbem "I Know it's in me, I know I"ve hit those kinda shots but why can't I just do it?!?"
That being said I have to revisit them as I"m kinda cheating just sending my mind on a trip but not doing the same trip over and over which I think is part of the key.
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08-04-2006 02:42 PM #15
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Here Is The Poem
Here I stand all alone
Reciting to myself this tempo poem
If I shank I shall not fear
For BC Mist is all so near
Now I am shooting only 3 over
This poem is better than a four leaf cloverLefty Lucas
I am abidextrous, I once golfed right-handed and now I shoot left-handed just as badly!
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08-04-2006 06:31 PM #16
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hahaa that was great!
heres another mail i got from carey that might be of interest.
''Jerome:
Thanks for posting the link. I've given the forum two email addresses so far and still haven't heard from them, so I don't know what that means. I'll keep trying.
Meanwhile, I don't know if you have this already, but here's a copy of Moe's poem you can post for those who want a Moe related clear key - or the one he used, which was "I am puuuuurrrrrrre energy."
Later,
Carey
http://clearkeygolf.com
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08-04-2006 07:15 PM #17
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Originally Posted by Powerdraw
Jerome:
Apologies. I messed up on the link for Moe's poem. Here's the corrected version. And thanks for "delivering the mail" for me in the interim.
I am frankly amazed at the number on this thread with very good knowledgeability on the automatic process, for which clear key is the primary "tool." Not much I can say to this group, since you and they have already "done the job" rather well.
Anytime anyone does have questions about it, though, I will certainly respond, and if I don't have an answer, I'll find one. Was anyone in the group in Toronto in the 90s when I came up and did a seminar for the CPGA?
http://doubleconnexion.com/MoePoem.htm
Later,
Carey
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08-04-2006 08:18 PM #18
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Originally Posted by keygolf
I am amazed that you still make reference in your newsletters, to some correspondence we had in 2004. I hope that it helped some golfers to become at least interested enough in Clear Key to give it a whirl.
Recently, I helped a couple of members at my club to try Clear Keys and both, including the author of this thread, have seen immediate benefits. Unfortunately, because we are bombarded so much with the Bob Rotella type stuff, that when something that is correct and truly works comes along, it is sometimes met with disinterest. You know this better than anyone about this.
Keep up the good work.
Lyle
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08-04-2006 08:56 PM #19
I think this is an amazing concept, and should work if correctly approached and applied. I tried to think of something that would work for me, and it finally came, the same thing I use when I want to redirect my attention from a boring situation, or a bad dream and things like that. I use a simply nursery rhyme, whatever comes into my head, usually simple and trite.
The farmer in the dell
The farmer in the dell
Hi-ho,The derry-o
The farmer in the dell
I can block other things with this, so it should make a good ClearKey for me, and it is already all too familiar.
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08-05-2006 08:11 AM #20
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Originally Posted by BC MIST
Also, for the rest of this group, you should know that my copy of Moe's poem came through BC Mist (aka Lyle) quite a while back.
And zoic. Nothing wrong with your clearkey. I would guess that it can conjure up images that are fun and pleasant to "view," which adds to the value and strength of a key.
And thanks to powerdraw for pointing me here. (I've pretty much given up on forums where the name of the game is "who can be the most arrogant and/or oppositional." I can "play" that game, if necessary, but my preference is otherwise).
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08-05-2006 01:50 PM #21
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Tried doing some GANGSTA RAP in my head ther other day during a round. Do not, I repeat DO NOT TRY THAT ON THE COURSE!
My opinions are my own, I do not follow others.
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08-05-2006 06:44 PM #22
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Originally Posted by Golfbum
but, clearkey is more complicated then just singing a song in ones head. it must match your style-personnality that has been analysed and determined by doc, and also, the clearkey itself, although not something to use as a rythm tool, must somewhat fit your bill.
example, i doubt that Ernie Els would sing a metallica song...maybe more some frank not fred sinatra...
although i could see Nick Price singing crazy *...Last edited by Powerdraw; 08-06-2006 at 10:15 AM.
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08-05-2006 11:19 PM #23
Of course, Fred Sinatra. I remember him from his days in the Mouse Pack with Sonny Davis Jr., Don Martin, Paul Lawford, and Jerry Bishop...
When applying the Rules, you follow them line by line. You don't read between them.
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08-05-2006 11:27 PM #24
I think I've been trying to make the song slow down to fit into a swing or start one rather. I gotta start shopping for another key.
Out of curiosity; how many syllables is your key? I think my current ones are much too long at 8 or 12.
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08-05-2006 11:34 PM #25Originally Posted by LobWedge
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08-06-2006 12:54 PM #26
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Originally Posted by Powerdraw
Ernie Els would sing "New York, New York" maybeMy opinions are my own, I do not follow others.
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08-06-2006 05:18 PM #27
Nah, it'd be more like this "I've got the ball on a string"
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08-06-2006 09:25 PM #28
My Clear Key Update:
As per my last post I mentioned the syllables in a clear key and wondered if the # of syllablus was important to match your swing. If it wasen't should it be toyed with? I shortened my clear key by a few syllables and played Le Sorcier today...
My Handicap if I kept one is 25-30; 2nd full season golfing. Good shots in a cloud of mis; generally don't continue keeping score after a terrible opening.
Front 9: Shot a 39! Par 34.
I could of been lower too as almost all my putts that missed were very close 2 putts; not many real "saves" steady 2 putting the way through and some ridiculous wedge shots.
During the back 9 I kinda got into the beer a bit and lost my game and couldn't get it back. Did notice that my timing on the clear key and body movements were off. Shot 51 lots of lost balls and just general mistakes.
Either way I was pretty into the whole concept from the beginning but as of now I'll never play without the key. A 39 on the front; I had 5 bogey's the rest pars.
This was my best round ever at 90! I'm thrilled yet dissapointed considering the terrible show on the back. Going out tomorrow and will use the key again lets see what happens...
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08-06-2006 11:00 PM #29
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As an update to my using the clearkey, today was a really good test as our foursome had one very, very beginner golfer and another very distractive golfer so keeping focused on the game was a challenge. The first few holes were near disaster as I tried working my key but was having some trouble and then told myself I had to do it and that it was going to help and work. Finally got into it big time and finished the front nine only 3 over. Kept at it every shot and once I set up for a shot and got my key going I wasn't noticing any outside distractions and for me that is great. Went even on the back with a couple of three foot putts missed with a poor read. I've been reading a lot of the archives on the cleargolf web site and it's interesting as to how much of this I am doing and having success with. Will definitely be keeping it up and hope the results continue.
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