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    Shaft question?

    Everyone always says tapered iron shafts are no good because you can't freq' match them. Why is that?

    Is it because the parallel section is too short?
    Lack of parallel section?

    I know the PS on parallel shafts is longer and allows the opportunity to match shafts. But I can't believe tapered shafts are that useless in that manner.

    Why can you tip prep both .335 and .350 wood shafts and not both .355 and .370 iron shafts?

    Only other thing I can think of is that if you tip any .355 shafts the shaft will no longer fit in the hosel, but that goes back to my first question of too short of parallel section.

    Any answers to these would be greatly appreciated.
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    Because if you tip tapered shafts they won't go all the way down into the hosel. Think of a tapered shaft as a cone.
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    Someone with far more clubmaking skill than I will probably come along and answer all of these in detail, but a quick answer:

    .355 taper tip iron shafts do just that, they taper in the last (I can't remember what fraction of an inch) little bit before the tip. The hosel they are designed for does the same thing (in reverse, of course .)

    .335 and .350 wood shafts, and .370 iron shafts all have a parallel tip section, which varies depending on the type of shaft. If you tip trim any of this type you are changing the shaft to varying degrees.

    This is why you see P.T.S (parallel tip section) lengths listed for shafts of this type.

    Heh, someone always has a simpler explanation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chieflongtee
    Because if you tip tapered shafts they won't go all the way down into the hosel. Think of a tapered shaft as a cone.

    Only other thing I can think of is that if you tip any .355 shafts the shaft will no longer fit in the hosel, but that goes back to my first question of too short of parallel section.


    So I was correct in assuming what I did then. Thanks for the help guys.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff Johnston
    Only other thing I can think of is that if you tip any .355 shafts the shaft will no longer fit in the hosel, but that goes back to my first question of too short of parallel section.


    So I was correct in assuming what I did then. Thanks for the help guys.
    I have reamed many hosels recently to accept parallel shafts, Pretty easy and you can do anything you want to i.e frequency matching, soft stepping etc..
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    Tapered shafts were created to make assembly lines easy for the big OEMs.

    The shaft providers do the work of making shafts of increasing length thus enabling the club manufacturers to build sets by simply inserting without having to cut.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jvincent
    Tapered shafts were created to make assembly lines easy for the big OEMs.

    The shaft providers do the work of making shafts of increasing length thus enabling the club manufacturers to build sets by simply inserting without having to cut.
    Have you noticed John? Taylormade is now offering .355 or .370 shafts for their irons.
    http://www.taylormadegolf.com/club_options.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chieflongtee
    Have you noticed John? Taylormade is now offering .355 or .370 shafts for their irons.
    http://www.taylormadegolf.com/club_options.asp
    Interesting. When did they start doing that?

    I'd be curious to know what they charge for the custom .370 option.

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    I think it dates back to as far as 1998 as the TI Burner oversize irons were .370.All RAC LT in 2003 were .370 while the RAC Combos and MB's are .355. Confusing enough for you when looking for replacement shafts over the internet
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    Quote Originally Posted by jvincent
    Tapered shafts were created to make assembly lines easy for the big OEMs.

    The shaft providers do the work of making shafts of increasing length thus enabling the club manufacturers to build sets by simply inserting without having to cut.

    I would be curious to find out how the whole club assembly in a plant is done. Are the tapered shafts already prepped and butt trimmed to final playing length? Is the ferrule installation and grip and grip tape and epoxy all automated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chieflongtee
    I would be curious to find out how the whole club assembly in a plant is done. Are the tapered shafts already prepped and butt trimmed to final playing length? Is the ferrule installation and grip and grip tape and epoxy all automated?
    See the following from Dave Tutelman's visit to the TaylorMade and Callaway factories.

    http://tutelman.com/golfclubs/SanDiego98.php?ref=

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