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01-26-2006 10:56 AM #1
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One Plane Swing Instructor
I have purchased Jim Hardy's book and from what I have read I think I would benefit from switching to a one plane swing. I have the book (which BTW explains both swings quite well) and I have subscribed to an online instruction course but I also need to find a good instructor who can guide me during my learning curve.
Do any of you know of someone, perhaps Golfcoach can? Please let me know.
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LucLefty Lucas
I am abidextrous, I once golfed right-handed and now I shoot left-handed just as badly!
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01-26-2006 12:40 PM #2
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Originally Posted by leftylucas
Moving to the "One Plane" type swing is a huge step in the right direction.
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01-26-2006 12:59 PM #3
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Originally Posted by leftylucasBack at it.
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01-26-2006 01:07 PM #4Originally Posted by BC MIST
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01-26-2006 02:02 PM #5AndruGuest
Taking into account BC's opinions on this subject in the past, this is for everyone. Keeping your swing on one plane makes it very simple. However like Hardy says, you have to ignore all tips and fixes out there as most are geared towards a 2 plane move.
I'm not speaking for or on behalf of BC. We've had several discussions on this matter and I've been converted somewhat.
Good Luck.
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01-26-2006 05:54 PM #6
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Originally Posted by Shivas Irons
While having the lead arm coincide with the shouder plane is more or less the definition of the single plane swing, having your trail(right) elbow on the shaft axis plane, is what is really important. As the club is taken back your hands, right elbow and the shaft are on the shaft axis plane, until your hand are about hip high. At that point the path of the hands shift upwards to finish on the turned shoulder plane(single plane) while the elbow stays on the shaft axis plane. When the downswing begins there is a small shift of the hands and the shaft back down to the shaft axis plane so that at hip height or just below, the club shaft coincides with the right forearm, which is the most natural and efficient line along which the club GETS released through the ball. It is the small amount of shift that makes this kind of motion easier to repeat. If you go to the opposite extreme which is Jim Furyk, you will see this humungous plane shift that he has to do to hit the ball squarely. He has superior talent and can do this quite well. Those of us who lack world class talent, had better find a simpler position to be in at the top.
While the positions in Jim Hardy's book are perfect at the top, I really don't like what he wants you to do on the downswing. If you do literally what he says, you WILL swing over the top. That is why I recommended Pat in my post above, as I know that : 1. he teaches a single plane swing, and 2. he will get you there without all the bogus mumbo jumbo.
Again, check the shots of John Dunnigan here: http://www.golfbetterproductions.com/the-swing.asp
Pic 2 shows the classic "One" plane position. Pic 4 shows the shaft coinciding with the right forearm - beautiful. Pic 5 shows the club head CORRECTLY approaching the ball from well inside the target line.
Your swing motion will look like this and your ball striking will become PURE joy - with time and practice.
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01-26-2006 09:41 PM #7
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Thanks for the info Lyle, I will call him. I have only been reading the book for a few days and taken a few swings and it already seems much easier. I am still firing the hips but a little more concentration and practtice with the drills and I will be on my way. BTW, I did purchase the SMT 455 and I am still debating on the shaft for it. I will let you what I decide. I am also looking at the Solitaire for my 3 wood.
Thank again for all of your help, its much appreciated.
LucLefty Lucas
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01-27-2006 08:54 AM #8
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Originally Posted by leftylucas
Originally Posted by leftylucas
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01-27-2006 01:09 PM #9
Thanks for the explanantion - is this the same as natural golf ?
To me the position in pic #4 looks the same as Ben Hogan or Chad Cambell's swing - do they both use a one plane swing ?
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01-27-2006 04:01 PM #10
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Originally Posted by Shivas Irons
Regardless of whether one has a traditional swing or an single axis one, we both can swing, using the "One Plane" swing concept. The "One Plane" swing is not a swing on one plane, as there is a plane shift of the hands both up from the shaft axis plane on the backswing and then back down to the SAP, while the right elbow stays on the shaft axis plane, but most understand what the term means.
Both Hogan's and Campbell's swing would be called "One Plane" swings, and there are many others like these two, and the numbers are growing. Zach Johnson, Tom Pernice, Fred Funk is close, VJ is close. Liselotte Neuman, from the LPGA Tour, has one of the best to watch. So simple. No good golf swing is EASY to learn, but this kind of swing motion is EASIER, as long as you don't let yourself get caught up in the typical jungle of useless and unnecessary swing thoughts.
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01-30-2006 10:43 AM #11
Thanks for the clarification BC, now bring on spring !!
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01-30-2006 12:02 PM #12
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Done!
Well, I am done reading the book, I have practiced the drills a bit and I am starting lessons with Pat Latourette on wednesday. I am excited about the new swing and will let the forum know how the swing is going.
Lefty Lucas
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02-01-2006 02:36 PM #13
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Thanks Lyle
Well I had my first lesson with Pat and I found it quite enlightening. I am very happy I followed your suggestion. It is one thing reading the book and another getting the instruction on the result that you seek. I had difficulty keeping my lower body more submissive to the turn of the shoulders but I can see how I can be successful with this swing. I will work on it with Pat and practice at home and hopefully by this summer it will come around.
Lefty Lucas
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02-01-2006 06:00 PM #14
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Originally Posted by leftylucas
We had a good chat again this morning before your lesson and I continue to be impressed with him. He is one of the few who, IMO, really knows what he is doing.
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