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    Another player teed off the ball

    Last Saturday Ive played a golf tournament with three other player.
    One of them hit the ball close to the flight in front of us and
    they were visibly annoyed about that however they teed off the ball and went away
    Now my question

    1. What should we do?
    2. Could the player get a penalty stroke or two who teed off the ball.

    Greetz JayP

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    I would have asked to have him DQ'ed from the tourney after we were done, for being such a baby, but as far as I can tell, the following would apply as a refinement of Rule 15-3 (Wrong Ball).

    In stroke play, A and B drive into the same area in the rough. B finds a ball and hits it into the middle of a deep water hazard. A finds a ball that turns out to be B’s ball. No other ball is found in the area, so presumably B played A’s ball. B incurs a penalty of two strokes under Rule 15-3b and he must play his own ball. What is the proper procedure for A?
    A. Since there was reasonable evidence that B played A’s ball, A should place another ball at the spot from which B played the wrong ball, without penalty — Rule 15-3b. (Revised — Formerly 15-3/1)
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    I know Gary doesn't approve of quoting decisions but this seems to fit the bill exactly

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    Q. A is nearly struck by a ball played by a player in the following group. In anger, A hits the ball back towards the group. Has A played a practice stroke or a wrong ball?
    A. No. However, in equity (Rule 1-4), A should incur the general penalty of loss of hole in match play or two strokes in stroke play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JayP
    Last Saturday Ive played a golf tournament with three other player.
    One of them hit the ball close to the flight in front of us and
    they were visibly annoyed about that however they teed off the ball and went away
    Now my question

    1. What should we do?
    2. Could the player get a penalty stroke or two who teed off the ball.

    Greetz JayP
    1. Other players on the course are considered an "outside agency", so you would replace the ball where it was and continue play with no penalty, as per Rule 18.
    2. What AAA said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA
    I know Gary doesn't approve of quoting decisions
    I no longer moderate quoted decisions.

    On the other hand, I no longer try to straighten up the mess they make.

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    Gary
    As a matter of interest what is your answer to the original post ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA
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    As a matter of interest what is your answer to the original post ?
    As a Rules official, I would have brought the matter to the attention of the Committee and lobbied for disqualification. Failing that, a two stroke penalty would surely have been in order.

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    Gary:

    DQ under Rule 33-7?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hill
    As a Rules official, I would have brought the matter to the attention of the Committee and lobbied for disqualification. Failing that, a two stroke penalty would surely have been in order.
    Why the DQ rather than just the penalty strokes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AAA
    Why the DQ rather than just the penalty strokes?
    Cause I am mean.

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    Hitting a ball back to the offender is just dangerous. I 'd agree with a DQ. If the ball were hit into the woods, then the penalty strokes would be enough.

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    Nothing in the original message indicates that the ball was hit back in the direction of the group. Hence, my question of a DQ under what rule?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1dash1
    Nothing in the original message indicates that the ball was hit back in the direction of the group. Hence, my question of a DQ under what rule?
    Conditions of the Competion or Rule 33-7.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary Hill
    Cause I am mean.
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    I have a question: How come your group teed off while they were in range?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfpeasant
    I have a question: How come your group teed off while they were in range?
    Maybe because of an incorrect reading from a range-finder?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golfpeasant
    I have a question: How come your group teed off while they were in range?
    Maybe because standing on the tee box he couldn't tell if they were 250 or 300 out, but he typically only drives it in the low 200s. Having read this forum when trailing people get so annoyed when somebody waits too long to tee off that can't hit it far he did and had the drive of his life for that full 300.

    You can't win really. If he hadn't put his drive close to that group somebody would have complained that he was waiting too long and slowing down the course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wesvans
    Maybe because standing on the tee box he couldn't tell if they were 250 or 300 out, but he typically only drives it in the low 200s. Having read this forum when trailing people get so annoyed when somebody waits too long to tee off that can't hit it far he did and had the drive of his life for that full 300.
    Exactly, this was the problem.

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