A player is on the putting green, has addressed the ball and it starts to move. He panics and makes a quick stroke, striking the moving ball. What is the ruling.
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A player is on the putting green, has addressed the ball and it starts to move. He panics and makes a quick stroke, striking the moving ball. What is the ruling.
put the ball back to its original spot and take a 1 stroke penalty?
But he made a stroke at the ball. Why would he be allowed to replace the ball?Quote:
Originally Posted by rezadue
Without looking, a two stroke penalty. I think he gets to keep the stroke tho.
If the ball started moving after he initiated his stroke he'd be ok.
Without checking the rules (which I would always do :) ), I would think that there is a penalty for having moved the ball (at least having been deemed to have moved the ball after having addressed it), and another penalty for hitting a moving ball. I can't recall whether these penalties can be cumulative, but I think that they can be. Also, it seems reasonable to assume that the ball would have to be putted again from its original location.
It would have been easier to answer this question by looking at the rules, but I felt venturesome.
Why? When a player hits a moving ball, whether penalized or not, do the rules permit or insist that the stroke be replayed?Quote:
Originally Posted by mpare
In this scenario, how many rules were broken?
If more than 1, were they simultaneous or "mutually exclusive?"
I am guessing you have to have a ball be at rest on the green when maing a stroke. By hitng a moving ball in the green surface a penalty stroke is assesed. And sine the troke was illegal he must replace and replay the stroke.
I am very green when it comes to rules, but here this is what I think happens.
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Originally Posted by BC MIST
Nothing wrong with this as we all started at the same point. But you are curious and willing to give it a shot and because of this, your knowledge of the rules will improve. I tend to learn a lot from the too many mistakes that I make.Quote:
Originally Posted by rezadue
If you start your backswing and then the ball starts to move, there is NO penalty if you continue your swing and strike the ball. However, if you stop then there is a 1 stroke penalty for moving the ball and a second if you fail to replace it.
However, in my scenario above, the player addressed the ball, and the ball began moving before he made a stroke and hit the moving ball. He IS penalized two strokes in stroke play for hitting a moving ball. But the penalties are not over yet.
Since there are no more takers on this scenario the ruling was: 2 strokes for hitting a moving ball, 1 stroke for causing the ball to move and 1 for not replacing it.
Wow. I need to improve both my typing skills AND rules knowledge. :)
So he should have backed off and let it roll, then replaced it? Then he would take 1 for causing it to move, because he had already addressed it?Quote:
Originally Posted by BC MIST
That's right. And it's that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Skiddlydidly
yikesQuote:
Originally Posted by BC MIST
Since he had not STARTED his stroke but had addressed the ball, he must replace the ball and take a one stroke penalty.
Yikes, I need to review the rules.